Jean_Jacket41
Neely = HOF
Where were you for the last 10 games before Ottawa on Monday?
Under a rock or watching Habs games and celebrating their fraud 6 games winning streak...
Where were you for the last 10 games before Ottawa on Monday?
For every Hossa there are 300 who are out of the league by 33,never mind scoring 20. Plus Hossa peaked at 45 goals and now scores at 50-60% of that. By 32 he was settling in at about 65-70% of his peak. Translate that to Backes.
300 players is a pretty nice number. Where did you pull that number from? 6 mil is no longer a top tier number when top end players are making close to 10. Those days are over. Move on with your life and find some happiness.
I love when people throw out statistics You never know what a player will do at a certain age. People said Charas contract would be abysmal by year 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017 and now 2018. Realistically, he is still worth the money.
Where were you for the last 10 games before Ottawa on Monday?
I don't know what to tell you guys, but I didn't think he played all that great leading up to this game either.
Rangers game he did nothing.
Devils game he got that assist, watch it: https://www.nhl.com/video/carlos-goal-on-fortunate-bounce/t-283378832/c-50001603
You want me to say something about that? I guess yay Bergy for being there?
He scores the nice one in the Zona game: https://www.nhl.com/video/backes-quick-one-timer-finds-net/t-283371888/c-49836503 which if you watched that game frankly he looked entirely undangerous. That one shot wound up being his only shot, but at this point I'll take any goal he can get.
In the 6 goal game vs Dallas again I found him nearly invisible. And not that surprising again in that game he put one puck on the net. Here's his assist btw: https://www.nhl.com/video/krejcis-terrific-deflection/t-283369360/c-49771803
So are you really looking at an impressive player in that stretch? Be honest here, what am I looking at? He's barely shot, he's certainly not controlled the pace, he got that one nice goal and managed to get there on 2 A's by the work of Krug and Bergy. I've got exactly zero good to say about his play going back to the Dallas game. I wasn't in town for the Cali games, didnt' see them.
Backes doesn't have much puck presence. He is good at mucking, checking, and getting a shot off. But holding onto the puck looking for a play or just carrying the puck on his stick up the ice is not his game. So he looks like he doesn't do much on the ice since he is not around the puck much.
According to many Chara should have retired 2 years ago
And here we are standing currently as a projected playoff team with Chara once again being the bonafide #1
Everything is a case by case basis. Backes' game has never really been predicated on speed- he's never needed it to be effective. Sure he'll have wear and tear from the physical play...but I don't think it will diminish his game all that much. The last year of that deal may be ugly but I think it should be fine for the most part. It's a calculated overpay, which is how you have to treat UFA if you plan on adding an established talent
So maybe you wouldn't be the FIRST person to credit him when he steps up then. . .
No I would. I just haven't seen it. David Backes does not EVER carry the play. He's never looked dangerous with the puck on his stick to me. And unlike power forwards banging home lots of rebounds and getting into the dirty places on the ice, he's just not putting a lot of rubber on the net of late. For a guy supposedly so big and so strong in Backes, Loui spent way more time in the dirty areas banging in those rebounds for goals. You can't tell me I'm wrong there.
Shot counts gentlemen. In the period where you say Backes is getting all this rubber on goalies pads in close, the stats just don't tell that story. He's hardly shooting at all, which is baffling.
IMO for Backes to be effective he needs 2 wings around him like Marchand and Pasta. He can then play center and set them up. Not saying I'd do this but this would make Backes a better contributor.
Running around on Krejcis and Bergy's wing is a waste of the 6 mill we pay. He's too slow
Nice to see Backes play a signature game last night. 6 Bruin goals, 0 points, 0 shots. That said it's tough to value leadership. Actually no, leadership costs 6m.
No I would. I just haven't seen it. David Backes does not EVER carry the play. He's never looked dangerous with the puck on his stick to me. And unlike power forwards banging home lots of rebounds and getting into the dirty places on the ice, he's just not putting a lot of rubber on the net of late. For a guy supposedly so big and so strong in Backes, Loui spent way more time in the dirty areas banging in those rebounds for goals. You can't tell me I'm wrong there.
Nice to see Backes play a signature game last night. 6 Bruin goals, 0 points, 0 shots. That said it's tough to value leadership. Actually no, leadership costs 6m.