Player Discussion Danton Heinen

[Gordon Lightfoot]

I'd be so down with that. I think he'd do a fantastic job with those two. Most players would, especially smart ones.

 

[Mainehockey33]

He would fit well on the top line. He’s great at making plays below the goal line and Bergeron and Marchand will capitalize more than Nash and Backes.

60+ points?

 

[neelynugs]

i'd rather see him centering the 3rd line, but am sure he will be fine wherever he plays.
one downside of using him on the top line is he'll probably leech a lot of points, leading
to an inflated contract next summer.

 

[ODAAT]

I`m horrific at projecting production totals but if Heinen shows more consistency to his game this year in the sense where his dip in play offensively isn`t extended and he puts up similar numbers to last year with hopefully a bit of an increase, I`ll be happy

I love the guy, love players who clearly believe that there are 3 zones in the game and being responsible in all 3 of them is important.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Reminds me so much of Donny Marcotte - probably sees offensive game better and hard pressed to have that defensive game but there are many of the 8 slices of the pie that lineup with these two.

Side note - just offered Glorydaze in the SIM Timothy Liljegren for Danton Heinen. Does he do it ?

I think you knew the answer even before you even asked the question.

 

[Marcobruin]

This year will decide if Heinen is for real or is at best a fourth liner.
The jury is still very out on him

 

[Pia8988]

This year will decide if Heinen is for real or is at best a fourth liner.
The jury is still very out on him

47 point rookie. 4th liner.

 

[wintersej]

i'd rather see him centering the 3rd line, but am sure he will be fine wherever he plays.
one downside of using him on the top line is he'll probably leech a lot of points, leading
to an inflated contract next summer.

Or inflated trade value?

 

[Rubber Biscuit]

This year will decide if Heinen is for real or is at best a fourth liner.
The jury is still very out on him

He's already very clearly more than "at best a fourth liner"

 

[Marcobruin]

47 point rookie. 4th liner.

I knew someone would overrate that stat.. he was MIA since half season or so and struggled in the playoffs.. The jurers are out

 

[wintersej]

47 point rookie. 4th liner.

I admit there are players I think might be more FUN to watch, but the people that doubt the quality of Heinen blow my mind. Guy will put up 60+ with Bergeron and Marchand.

 

[Marcobruin]

I admit there are players I think might be more FUN to watch, but the people that doubt the quality of Heinen blow my mind. Guy will put up 60+ with Bergeron and Marchand.

Are you implying he should be playing on the first line?
What's your point.? What's mind boggling to me how much he is glorified because of one half season of good hockey for a rookie. He was a ghost for the most part after that and unimpressive in the playoffs.
If he's for real and maybe he is
This is the season for him to prove it.

 

[Pia8988]

I knew someone would overrate that stat.. he was MIA since half season or so and struggled in the playoffs.. The jurers are out

Yes, I’m the one overrating something

 

[Rubber Biscuit]

Are you implying he should be playing on the first line?
What's your point.? What's mind boggling to me how much he is glorified because of one half season of good hockey for a rookie. He was a ghost for the most part after that and unimpressive in the playoffs.
If he's for real and maybe he is
This is the season for him to prove it.

Do you think everyone's opinions here are based strictly on what he did in Boston last year?

You're severely underrating him based on one half season of relatively poor production as a rookie.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

I knew someone would overrate that stat.. he was MIA since half season or so and struggled in the playoffs.. The jurers are out

Danton Heinen: 77 Games Played -- 16 Goals -- 31 Assists -- 47 Points -- 0.61 PPG

First 38 Games Played = 10 Goals -- 20 assists -- 30 Points -- 0.79 PPG
Last 39 Games Played = 6 Goals -- 11 assists -- 17 points -- 0.44 PPG

I find it funny that 0.44 PPG pace is "MIA since half the season". Regardless of his 2nd half dip in production, he still produced like that of a higher end 3rd liner. But yep..... Jury is still out! Could be "at best" a 4th liner!

Were you one of the few here who didn't like Heinen but got really quiet when he showed he could play?

 

[Rubber Biscuit]

Danton Heinen: 77 Games Played -- 16 Goals -- 31 Assists -- 47 Points -- 0.61 PPG

First 38 Games Played = 10 Goals -- 20 assists -- 30 Points -- 0.79 PPG
Last 39 Games Played = 6 Goals -- 11 assists -- 17 points -- 0.44 PPG

I find it funny that 0.44 PPG pace is "MIA since half the season". Regardless of his 2nd half dip in production, he still produced like that of a higher end 3rd liner. But yep..... Jury is still out! Could be "at best" a 4th liner!

I like that he said Heinen had "one half season of good hockey for a rookie" as if to say his numbers are good for a rookie and not good for basically 90% of players

 

[wintersej]

I knew someone would overrate that stat.. he was MIA since half season or so and struggled in the playoffs.. The jurers are out

He was inconsistent, and I would like to see more pace in his game. But even if his scoring was up and down thru out the season, he was a very good possession guy (55+% in CF, Scoring Chance for and High Danger scoring chance) and good in all three zones. He is clearly not a 4th liners at all, come on.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

I like that he said Heinen had "one half season of good hockey for a rookie" as if to say his numbers are good for a rookie and not good for basically 90% of players

Yeah, from my eyes his first half was incredible for a rookie, and his 2nd half was obviously not as productive, but still very good for a rookie haha.

 

[Marcobruin]

Danton Heinen: 77 Games Played -- 16 Goals -- 31 Assists -- 47 Points -- 0.61 PPG

First 38 Games Played = 10 Goals -- 20 assists -- 30 Points -- 0.79 PPG
Last 39 Games Played = 6 Goals -- 11 assists -- 17 points -- 0.44 PPG

I find it funny that 0.44 PPG pace is "MIA since half the season". Regardless of his 2nd half dip in production, he still produced like that of a higher end 3rd liner. But yep..... Jury is still out! Could be "at best" a 4th liner!

Were you one of the few here who didn't like Heinen but got really quiet when he showed he could play?

Here we go ..did u watch him in the second half .he dropped off anyone knows that .at one point he couldn't score
It's like someone who reads about an event of some sort and writes about it and someone who witnesses it himself.
Here let me refresh and be flagrant..he suked pretty much a good part of the second half which he continued to do into the playoffs.
If he doesn't produce more and again maybe he will .....he'll be lucky to get first line minutes at Providence..At least there he can shine in the playoffs.
It's up to him we'll see what he's got

 

[BruinDust]

Danton Heinen: 77 Games Played -- 16 Goals -- 31 Assists -- 47 Points -- 0.61 PPG

First 38 Games Played = 10 Goals -- 20 assists -- 30 Points -- 0.79 PPG
Last 39 Games Played = 6 Goals -- 11 assists -- 17 points -- 0.44 PPG

I find it funny that 0.44 PPG pace is "MIA since half the season". Regardless of his 2nd half dip in production, he still produced like that of a higher end 3rd liner. But yep..... Jury is still out! Could be "at best" a 4th liner!

Were you one of the few here who didn't like Heinen but got really quiet when he showed he could play?

People act like Heinen is the first rookie NHL player to have his production dip in the 2nd half. Games get more intense, the grind takes a bigger toll, team defenses tighten up, etc.

He needs to get faster, he needs to get stronger, I'd still like to see him develop a better change of pace (seems like he's always at "medium" gear).

I'd like to see him get some PK duty this season, I'm actually surprised he hasn't gotten a look there more. His positioning and hockey sense should lend himself well to be a good PK forward.

But I don't think there is any doubt he'll be at worst a solid two-way 3rd line winger for a long time. PJ Axelsson played a decade in Boston with all but his final season (2009-10) as a 3rd line player, and Heinen has already eclipsed Axelsson's best season points-wise.

The question is can he improve his weaknesses to produce on one of the top 2 lines and do it consistently through a whole season.

Put him at RW with Debrusk and Krejci and I think you'll get 50 points out of him next year.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Here we go ..did u watch him in the second half .he dropped off anyone knows that .at one point he couldn't score

Yes, I did watch him. I saw a player who while he wasn't producing as much, continued to still play a solid all around game. And if you bothered to actually look above, he still was productive over the 2nd half of his season.

It's like someone who reads about an event of some sort and writes about it and someone who witnesses it himself.

Well I did both.... Read about it and witnessed it.

Here let me refresh and be flagrant..he suked pretty much a good part of the second half which he continued to do into the playoffs.

The numbers say otherwise that he sucked. Is 0.44 PPG production "sucking" in your eyes? Pretty ridiculous expectations then.... Your view is clearly clouded by the fact you were never a Heinen fan to begin with. You are a typical, hide in the weeds and wait until something bad happens so I can bitch again, type. It's alright... You're not alone here. Granted, your company isn't HOF quality

He wasn't good in the playoffs.. I'll agree there. His line mates weren't either. Riley Nash and Backes (5v5) were non-existent. He still scored a pretty huge goal in Game 7 against Toronto..... I believe the goal was assisted by Krejci. Heinen showed a lot this past season that he could produce with better players. He was very consistent when he was moved up in the lineup.

If he doesn't produce more and again maybe he will .....he'll be lucky to get first line minutes at Providence..At least there he can shine in the playoffs.

And back to outlandish garbage comments. Really? If he doesn't produce more? What is "more" that he needs to produce to meet your high criteria? Heinen is done playing in Providence. If you knew what you were watching, you'd be able to see that.

 

[bearcountry17]

Heinen outscored all but 26 other LWs in the NHL last season according to NHL.com. This is a troll job if I've ever seen one.

 

[neelynugs]

curious to see how heinen plays if they do shift him to RW. last year, cassidy went out of his
way to note that heinen was not comfortable/useful on that side. he's a really smart kid and
apparently spent time this summer working on pucks off the wall on the RW, so we'll see
how much improvement there's been.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Heinen outscored all but 26 other LWs in the NHL last season according to NHL.com. This is a troll job if I've ever seen one.

But but but..... He wasn't as productive in the 2nd half so clearly that means he's back into the "jury is still out" class. It's f***ing hilarious to me that people actually can look at his whole season, dismiss the first half, but put so much weight into the 2nd half. It's so stupid and lazy. It's always the same people too...Shocker.

 

[Dr Hook]

curious to see how heinen plays if they do shift him to RW. last year, cassidy went out of his
way to note that heinen was not comfortable/useful on that side. he's a really smart kid and
apparently spent time this summer working on pucks off the wall on the RW, so we'll see
how much improvement there's been.

If he can successfully manage that transition, it partially solves one of the Bruins' bigger problems going into the season.