Value of: Could Toronto acquire one of the following dman?

[Ducks in a row]

And if so...for what?

Montour
Manson
Vatanen
Hamilton
Giordano
Hanifan
Faulk
Pesce
Seabrook
Brodin
Dumba
Ellis
Ekholm
Bouwmeester
Parayko
Stralman
Tanev
Trouba

Regarding the Ducks sure if Maple Leafs overpay for one of them but I just don't see a trade actually happening for one of them now.

 

[go4hockey]

Muzzin for JVR+Marincin/Marchenko (cheap bottom pair filler).

This is a total junk offer A ufa to be and dime a dozen filler. Flush this down and start over.

 

[kfox]

Would love to get Dumba, but price would be high and they'd want a dman back. If the goal is to win now, Dumba + ? for Liljegren + ?

 

[Heldig]

What about big buff? Jets fans is he avaialble?

Possibly. Trouble is the Jets first have to find IF Myers is back to health AND have to know if Trouba is going to be a long term solution on D.

Also dont know if Buff would waive his NMC to go to Toronto?

 

[DougGilmour93]

Regarding the Ducks sure if Maple Leafs overpay for one of them but I just don't see a trade actually happening for one of them now.

Could JVR + Carrick get Manson +?

 

[Ducks in a row]

Could JVR + Carrick get Manson +?

We have good young defenseman and defenseman prospects so not interested in Carrick and JVR is a UFA to be so little interest in him. Not trading Manson for that let alone Manson+

 

[DougGilmour93]

Nope not trading Manson for that.

Hmmm. Manson is exactly the dman we need.
He'd be what I'd push for.

What would interest Anaheim for Manson. Obviously the big 3 would be off the table.

 

[Bernify]

For Parayko, the cost is Matthews and I understand when Leafs fans balk.

Bouwmeester isn't dissimilar to Ryan Reaves. He fills a role and isn't going to be traded unless there's an overpayment.

The Blues have some young LHD prospects coming up soon (maybe even this year). J Bo could be a name to be looked at a year from now.

More like, the cost for Matthews is Parayko+++

You can't claim the price for a player is another player of objectively greater value. It's like saying "The price for Eichel is McDavid"

 

[randomusername101]

I barely read this thread, and thankfully I didn't continue when I started the words "Marner for Montour" were even written. Forget that it was a rejected idea, the fact that that's even mentioned in any way is asinine. Trade a future likely Top 10-15 player for a prospect with a few games?

To answer OP.

Montour - JVR, but Anaheim has to add a 1st.
Manson - Same deal as montour, but perhaps a 2nd on 2nd thought.
Vatanen - JVR, but anaheim adds a 2nd or 3rd.
Hamilton - JVR straight up, Toronto maybe adds a 3rd
Giordano - Don't konw enough about him
Hanifan - Canes don't do this unless it's JVR +
Faulk - JVR straight up? Don't know a tonne besides he's offensively gifted
Pesce - Dont know enough, herad he's a prospect
Seabrook - Again, as I said in another thread, why?
Brodin - Don't know
Dumba - JVR ++
Ellis - JVR ++
Ekholm - Don't know enough
Bouwmeester - Why? + Stupid
Parayko - Don't know
Stralman - Tampa wont
Tanev - JVR straight up, or Van adds 2nd
Trouba - Same as Dumba

 

[Ducks in a row]

Montour - JVR, but Anaheim has to add a 1st.
Manson - Same deal as montour, but perhaps a 2nd on 2nd thought.
Vatanen - JVR, but anaheim adds a 2nd or 3rd.

Ducks are not trading Montour and a 1st round pick for 1 year of JVR.
Ducks are not trading Manson and a 1st or 2nd round pick for 1 year of JVR.
Ducks are not trading Vatanen and a 2nd or 3rd pick for 1 year of JVR.
Doubtful Ducks will even trade for JVR at all.

 

[Dbrownss]

I barely read this thread, and thankfully I didn't continue when I started the words "Marner for Montour" were even written. Forget that it was a rejected idea, the fact that that's even mentioned in any way is asinine. Trade a future likely Top 10-15 player for a prospect with a few games?

To answer OP.

Montour - JVR, but Anaheim has to add a 1st.
Manson - Same deal as montour, but perhaps a 2nd on 2nd thought.
Vatanen - JVR, but anaheim adds a 2nd or 3rd.
Hamilton - JVR straight up, Toronto maybe adds a 3rd
Giordano - Don't konw enough about him
Hanifan - Canes don't do this unless it's JVR +
Faulk - JVR straight up? Don't know a tonne besides he's offensively gifted
Pesce - Dont know enough, herad he's a prospect
Seabrook - Again, as I said in another thread, why?
Brodin - Don't know
Dumba - JVR ++
Ellis - JVR ++
Ekholm - Don't know enough
Bouwmeester - Why? + Stupid
Parayko - Don't know
Stralman - Tampa wont
Tanev - JVR straight up, or Van adds 2nd
Trouba - Same as Dumba

Are you JVRs agent?

 

[randomusername101]

More like, the cost for Matthews is Parayko+++

You can't claim the price for a player is another player of objectively greater value. It's like saying "The price for Eichel is McDavid"

Again, another one of those ideas where the fact that it's even pondered is asinine. In what world does anyone even consider trading mathews at all, unless Oilers lose their mind? I wouldn't even trade Mathews for Eichel + 1st round. Might sound crazy to superficial processing, but wait n see. Mathews 1st season compared to Eichel's is not comparable.

 

[BleedBlue14]

Only thing aside from the 3 young guys you have that would make sense for Bouwmeester is Kadri. Only thing that would make sense for Parayko is Matthews. Both scenarios, not likely whatsoever. Next year Jbo should be expendable but I'm not sure whether Edmundson, Dunn or Walman at any capacity of combination are ready to eat up 5/6th of the game alone. Because that's what we ask out of our LHD due to the premium of having Parayko and Pietro.

 

[Exit Dose]

Hmmm. Manson is exactly the dman we need.
He'd be what I'd push for.

What would interest Anaheim for Manson. Obviously the big 3 would be off the table.

Manson is exactly the defenseman that Anaheim needs, though.

 

[randomusername101]

Ducks are not trading Montour and a 1st for 1 year of JVR.
Ducks are not trading Manson for 1 year of JVR. What do you mean but perhaps a 2nd on 2nd though?
Ducks are not trading Vatanen and a 2nd or 3rd for 1 year of JVR,

Agreed. I should've prefaced by saying JVR signs.

Montour is good, but hasn't accomplished much. If JVR re-signs, the ducks add a top line forward. I don't know what your price for 60 point forwards is, but it's generally a good prospect + 1st usually.

 

[DougGilmour93]

Manson is exactly the defenseman that Anaheim needs, though.

Understood.
Cheers

 

[Bernify]

Manson is exactly the defenseman that Anaheim needs, though.

Manson is exactly the defenseman that every team in the NHL needs (Probably)

 

[Dbrownss]

More like, the cost for Matthews is Parayko+++

You can't claim the price for a player is another player of objectively greater value. It's like saying "The price for Eichel is McDavid"

Leafs: How much for Parayko
Blues: Matthews
Leafs: thats too much....cant do that.
Blues: then stop calling.

 

[randomusername101]

Are you JVRs agent?

No, but I played 3 sports high level, including junior national soccer. I know relative worth of athletes. And 30 goals/60 points at age 27-28 in today's NHL is not a joke. Regardless of the undervaluing due to percieved "softness". However, as mentioned to the other poster, to be fair, I should have prefaced iwth JVR signs with anaheim.

 

[Dbrownss]

No, but I played 3 sports high level, including junior national soccer. I know relative worth of athletes. And 30 goals/60 points at age 27-28 in today's NHL is not a joke. Regardless of the undervaluing due to percieved "softness". However, as mentioned to the other poster, to be fair, I should have prefaced iwth JVR signs with anaheim.

He's a winger that will be a UFA. His value is around a 1st+ ok prospect

 

[kfox]

I barely read this thread, and thankfully I didn't continue when I started the words "Marner for Montour" were even written. Forget that it was a rejected idea, the fact that that's even mentioned in any way is asinine. Trade a future likely Top 10-15 player for a prospect with a few games?

To answer OP.

Montour - JVR, but Anaheim has to add a 1st.
Manson - Same deal as montour, but perhaps a 2nd on 2nd thought.
Vatanen - JVR, but anaheim adds a 2nd or 3rd.
Hamilton - JVR straight up, Toronto maybe adds a 3rd
Giordano - Don't konw enough about him
Hanifan - Canes don't do this unless it's JVR +
Faulk - JVR straight up? Don't know a tonne besides he's offensively gifted
Pesce - Dont know enough, herad he's a prospect
Seabrook - Again, as I said in another thread, why?
Brodin - Don't know
Dumba - JVR ++
Ellis - JVR ++
Ekholm - Don't know enough
Bouwmeester - Why? + Stupid
Parayko - Don't know
Stralman - Tampa wont
Tanev - JVR straight up, or Van adds 2nd
Trouba - Same as Dumba

I think you over value JVR. He's a great player BUT you only get him for 1 year- he's going to test free agency, no doubt. Maybe he would sign an extension deal with an east coast American team to be close to family home, Middleton, NJ, or Minnesota, where I believe he lives in off season. If i were giving up a front line dman for JVR, I would want him to agree to extension before deal is made and that scenario will only happen in the off season, so soon.

 

[mouser]

Any of the bold ones should he available for pkgs of 1st/Kap/Brown/Liljegren/Dermott/Bracco/etc

Disagree, many of those teams are in win-now mode and not that interested in trading key roster players for futures.

 

[Bernify]

Leafs: How much for Parayko
Blues: Matthews
Leafs: thats too much....cant do that.
Blues: then stop calling.

Since we're playing the hypothetical game, after this conversation, I'd imagine the Leafs would just offer sheet him if they really wanted to (Not that would happen, just seems to make more sense).

 

[FOurteenS inCisOr]

I barely read this thread, and thankfully I didn't continue when I started the words "Marner for Montour" were even written. Forget that it was a rejected idea, the fact that that's even mentioned in any way is asinine. Trade a future likely Top 10-15 player for a prospect with a few games?

To answer OP.

Montour - JVR, but Anaheim has to add a 1st.
Manson - Same deal as montour, but perhaps a 2nd on 2nd thought.
Vatanen - JVR, but anaheim adds a 2nd or 3rd.
Hamilton - JVR straight up, Toronto maybe adds a 3rd
Giordano - Don't konw enough about him
Hanifan - Canes don't do this unless it's JVR +
Faulk - JVR straight up? Don't know a tonne besides he's offensively gifted
Pesce - Dont know enough, herad he's a prospect
Seabrook - Again, as I said in another thread, why?
Brodin - Don't know
Dumba - JVR ++
Ellis - JVR ++
Ekholm - Don't know enough
Bouwmeester - Why? + Stupid
Parayko - Don't know
Stralman - Tampa wont
Tanev - JVR straight up, or Van adds 2nd
Trouba - Same as Dumba

Jeezus...

 

[randomusername101]

He's a winger that will be a UFA. His value is around a 1st+ ok prospect

This is logical, but as mentioned, I did say that if he resigns, its 'a different situation.