OT: Coronavirus XXXVIII: Variants, the Debbie Downer to Getting to Herd Immunity?

[CantHaveTkachev]

Why do you care what was recommended in 2019 when we hardly knew anything about the virus?

Things we didn't know in October 2019:

Virulence?
Transmissibility?

so they shouldn't have recommendations for pandemics then in order to prepare for future ones?

 

[StoveTopStauffer]

You actually added nothing to the conversation while smearing a person and a whole group of people.

Night and day from your preceding post, which I liked BTW. .

Because it reaffirms your ignorant biases mostly.

 

[StoveTopStauffer]

so they shouldn't have recommendations for pandemics then in order to prepare for future ones?

1. It wasn't even a pandemic in 2019.
2. They didn't even know human to human transmission was possible until later.
3. Mask shortages were already happening.

 

[Yukon Joe]

so they shouldn't have recommendations for pandemics then in order to prepare for future ones?

It was a recommendation in October 2019 for a hypothetical influenza pandemic - one that didn't exist (and still doesn't exist).

Now that we're in 2021 with a very real coronavirus pandemic, and have been for over 12 months, trying to point to a 2019 hypothetical for a completely different virus really strikes me as being disingenuous at best.

 

[Biltmore]

good old nutritionist Eric Feigl-Ding

another "expert" wrong about Texas

Isn't this Eric Feigl-Ding dipshit the same guy who says keep your kids out of school, while moving his family somewhere else so they can go to school? Why of course it is! This POS faker should be run out of town with a pitchfork for his hypocrisy!

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

1. It wasn't even a pandemic in 2019.
2. They didn't even know human to human transmission was possible until later.
3. Mask shortages were already happening.

and? you realize this article was done in October 2019 order to prepare for the next Pandemic right? (which was 4 months later)

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

It was a recommendation in October 2019 for a hypothetical influenza pandemic - one that didn't exist (and still doesn't exist).

Now that we're in 2021 with a very real coronavirus pandemic, and have been for over 12 months, trying to point to a 2019 hypothetical for a completely different virus really strikes me as being disingenuous at beast.

and how are the two different in terms of transmission?

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Isn't this Eric Feigl-Ding dipshit the same guy who says keep your kids out of school, while moving his family somewhere else so they can go to school? Why of course it is! This POS faker should be run out of town with a pitchfork for his hypocrisy!

yeah, this fraud was practicing nutrition and had 2000 followers up until the pandemic hit
then his alarmist and sensationalized tweets ballooned his followers to 250,000

no one is enjoying the pandemic as much as him
Inside the controversial rise of a top Twitter COVID-19 influencer

 

[StoveTopStauffer]

and? you realize this article was done in October 2019 order to prepare for the next Pandemic right? (which was 4 months later)

No it wasn't "the next pandemic" in the article you cited. Maybe you should read the title.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

No it wasn't "the next pandemic" in the article you cited. Maybe you should read the title.

"Non-pharmaceutical public health measures for mitigating the risk and impact of epidemic and pandemic influenza"

which pandemic are they referring to then?

 

[StoveTopStauffer]

"Non-pharmaceutical public health measures for mitigating the risk and impact of epidemic and pandemic influenza"

which pandemic are they referring to then?

Influenza?

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Influenza?

which is different how in terms of transmission?

 

[Yukon Joe]

and how are the two different in terms of transmission?

Since you seem to trust WHO guidelines...

Coronavirus disease (COVID-19): Similarities and differences with influenza (who.int)

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Since you seem to trust WHO guidelines...

Coronavirus disease (COVID-19): Similarities and differences with influenza (who.int)

thanks!
so both are transmitted very similarly

Secondly, both viruses are transmitted by contact, droplets and fomites. As a result, the same public health measures, such as hand hygiene and good respiratory etiquette (coughing into your elbow or into a tissue and immediately disposing of the tissue), are important actions all can take to prevent infection.

 

[StoveTopStauffer]

which is different how in terms of transmission?

The biggest difference? Covid-19 is transmissible without symptoms and for quite a long time.

 

[StoveTopStauffer]

thanks!
so both are transmitted very similarly

Funny how you stop reading where you want to. You obviously can't be counted on for accurate information. It's obvious you're not looking to learn anything.

Also that information is old.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

The biggest difference? Covid-19 is transmissible without symptoms and for quite a long time.

I am aware, hence why everyone must wear masks

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Funny how you stop reading where you want to. You obviously can't be counted on for accurate information. It's obvious you're not looking to learn anything.

Also that information is old.

funny you assume I didn't read the differences
anyways, I'll step away lol

 

[StoveTopStauffer]

I am aware, hence why everyone must wear masks

Ok, but how does that pertain to a technical paper about influenza? They are separate entities with their own characteristics.

 

[Raab]

The biggest difference? Covid-19 is transmissible without symptoms and for quite a long time.

Can you post your evidence for that claim?

 

[Raab]

Ok, but how does that pertain to a technical paper about influenza? They are separate entities with their own characteristics.

We've handled pandemics the same way for over a hundred years. Only during this pandemic have we started quarantining healthy individuals. There should be clear evidence this is needed to help reduce spread. I've yet to see it. In fact I've seen the opposite. So the medical professionals have introduced harm against healthy individuals without evidence it would help reduce infections.

 

[StoveTopStauffer]

We've handled pandemics the same way for over a hundred years. Only during this pandemic have we started quarantining healthy individuals. There should be clear evidence this is needed to help reduce spread. I've yet to see it. In fact I've seen the opposite. So the medical professionals have introduced harm against healthy individuals without evidence it would help reduce infections.

We have literally never had a virus travel around the world as fast as this one, ever.

"Medical professionals have introduced harm" is the only thing I need to read in that paragraph to know I'd be wasting my time sourcing any information for you. So no, I won't indulge your nonsense.

 

[harpoon]

"Medical professionals have introduced harm" is the only thing I need to read in that paragraph to know I'd be wasting my time sourcing any information for you. So no, I won't indulge your nonsense

So when Tam and Fauchi and a host of others said ‘don’t be racist and ban international flights from certain countries’ or ‘don’t bother wearing a mask, it won’t help you’ ... that was them ‘introducing good’. Gotcha.

Stopping flights and wearing masks are two of the most basic common sense things that could have been done in the very early stages to mitigate spread. These clowns advised the exact opposite for months. Thousands died. But I know you’ll find a way to excuse their incompetence.

 

[Raab]

We have literally never had a virus travel around the world as fast as this one, ever.

"Medical professionals have introduced harm" is the only thing I need to read in that paragraph to know I'd be wasting my time sourcing any information for you. So no, I won't indulge your nonsense.

We've also never had anyway to track a virus this fast either... so you have nothing. Please refrain from arguing on your feelings.

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

Another fun fact.....all the stuff about mental health issues becoming a threat.....well suicides appear to be down in a few countries.

Not that that discounts any other mental health effects.

But I mean more potentially good news at least.