Value of: Connor McDavid (thought experiment involving NHL players, not picks or prospects)
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YEGJuniorFan
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Realistic??
Tallon wont gut the core for McDavid. Everyone knows Oilers wont trade that pick. But Ekblad + 1st is more than fair. Ekblad is already a defenseman at 19 years old. Barkov and Huberdeau with him is laughable.You dont trade a future #1 center #1 defenseman and #1 winger + a 1st in a great draft for McDavid
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Florida's offer is easily the best.
I'll throw my
hat in the ring.
McDavid for Justin Faulk (1D), Jordan Staal (1 or 2C), and Elias Lindholm (potential top line 70 point forward). Then I'd pray to all that is holy that Hanifin falls to #5 overall or else we as a franchise are screwed defensively.
Basically, I'd match the TML idea of "take any 3 players from our roster.
I'll throw my
hat in the ring.McDavid for Justin Faulk (1D), Jordan Staal (1 or 2C), and Elias Lindholm (potential top line 70 point forward). Then I'd pray to all that is holy that Hanifin falls to #5 overall or else we as a franchise are screwed defensively.
Basically, I'd match the TML idea of "take any 3 players from our roster.
Monster packages for one player do not make sense. It guts the team giving up the package too much to compete, as one player does not a team make.
That said, as an Oiler fan, the only package I have seen that really interests me is that crazy Florida one.
McDavid is like nothing Ive ever seen out of a prospect. I would much rather the Oilers hold onto him and see what he can become than give him up. Even if the return is insane. He's too good to trade, full stop.
That said, as an Oiler fan, the only package I have seen that really interests me is that crazy Florida one.
McDavid is like nothing Ive ever seen out of a prospect. I would much rather the Oilers hold onto him and see what he can become than give him up. Even if the return is insane. He's too good to trade, full stop.
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Yeah, Florida would never do that. I would definitely consider McDavid for Ekblad and Barkov though. I'm actually pretty sure i would do it without thinking.
This thread is complete nonsense. Florida fan offering all that for mcdavid. Oilers fans merely calling it intriguing. I like McDavid and think that he will be generational. But even prime Crosby isn't worth what that florida offer was giving up. This is pure insanity.
As to the original Op. Hypothetical value of MCDavid at this point that would make the most sense to Edmonton would be something like....Subban/karlsson/doughty/weber/mcdonagh. Maybe a teeny tiny sweetener thrown in. That's it. Anything else cause more holes in a team than they can plug and simply doesn't make sense.
THAT is the value of Mcdavid. But that does. Mean oilers would or should trade him for something like that.
As to the original Op. Hypothetical value of MCDavid at this point that would make the most sense to Edmonton would be something like....Subban/karlsson/doughty/weber/mcdonagh. Maybe a teeny tiny sweetener thrown in. That's it. Anything else cause more holes in a team than they can plug and simply doesn't make sense.
THAT is the value of Mcdavid. But that does. Mean oilers would or should trade him for something like that.
No, they really shouldnt.
You're pointing out some of the best Dmen in the league right now. Nothing to scoff at.
But you're talking about the most valuable piece in the league, and possibly the best player to enter the NHL in 30 years. No guarantee, but I would say that it is all but guaranteed he will be more impactful to a team than any of those Dmen you mentioned.
Sure, getting one of those guys would instantly make Edmonton a respectable team, but with some shrewd moves it's possible Edmonton can become a contender within McD's ELC anyways.
Where is the incentive to move him?
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The only real comparable we have to the value of the McDavid pick and circumstances is when Lindros was traded at the draft.
That trade looked like this:
The Flyers trade had the Nordiques receiving Steve Duchesne, Ron Hextall, Kerry Huffman, Mike Ricci, the rights to Peter Forsberg, the Flyers first-round pick in 1992 (7th overall) and 1993, and $15 million.
4 solid players at the time, a good young prospect, 7th overall and next years 1st plus what ever cash is worth now a days (cap relief?)
That trade looked like this:
The Flyers trade had the Nordiques receiving Steve Duchesne, Ron Hextall, Kerry Huffman, Mike Ricci, the rights to Peter Forsberg, the Flyers first-round pick in 1992 (7th overall) and 1993, and $15 million.
4 solid players at the time, a good young prospect, 7th overall and next years 1st plus what ever cash is worth now a days (cap relief?)
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EDM: Malkin + Reilly or Hanifin*(If Available)
TOR: McDavid
PIT: Kessel + 1st(2016-edm) or 1st(pits)
TOR: McDavid
PIT: Kessel + 1st(2016-edm) or 1st(pits)
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I don't really like that from the Pens stand point. I don't think they'd do it, maybe if Toront ate some of Kessel's salary
In today's NHL and salary-cap world, I don't think there is a single 2 player package that would make me consider trading McDavid.
When you take everything into account (salary cap, marketing, sales, etc.), McDavid brings too much to a franchise.
When you take everything into account (salary cap, marketing, sales, etc.), McDavid brings too much to a franchise.
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Not sure if Kessel is the right guy, i mean they can definitely use his goal scoring but the problem with Phil is if he isn't scoring goals hes useless, and when you're trading away one of the top 5 best players in the league you're gonna want something, a sure thing, coming back. Malkin's hard, there's not really anything you can get back for him unless its a huge over pay which most clubs won't do. Send him to the caps for Backstrom or something, or at least enquire, shame he signed a 10 year contract though
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This is kind of silly. Crosby in his prime is the best player in the world. All it takes is for Ekblad to have any kind of sophomore slump and the deal doesn't look that great anymore.
Huberdeau and Barkov are fine young players but Edmonton has lots of those.
I don't see much reason the Oilers wouldn't turn that down.
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Ill start by saying im a big Ekblad fan, have been since his draft season, however....
Tyler Myers had a better rookie season and you cant really call him a generational defenseman. He faced tougher competition(Ekblad was sheltered) and he put up more points(48 vs 39). Temper your expectation, young dmen with a good rookie season arent exactly a sure thing.
As for the offer one of the few trades id do is Ekblad+Barkov+1st, whether or not Florida would ia another story, thats what it would take.
in my view i think connor mcdavid is good but who knows about NHL Futures??
Remember these guys who were considered the next one
Alexander Daigle
Angelo Espiteso
Patrick Stefann
Remember these guys who were considered the next one
Alexander Daigle
Angelo Espiteso
Patrick Stefann
mc3488
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Bo Horvat, Chris Tanev, 1st, depth player (hansen/higgins). That would be my best offer, and Edmonton would be stupid to take it.
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