Value of: Connor McDavid (thought experiment involving NHL players, not picks or prospects)
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When was the last time the best team in the league traded their best player they've ever had after the best season in their franchise history? In any sport?
Seth Jones ++ is as high as we'd go Imo.
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This thread is about relative value. So the trade can still be seemingly irrational as long as the value is fair.
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If I'm Edmonton and I have the #1 pick I jump at that deal.
And if I'm SJ I would highly consider this, as it would shake things up.
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Also take projected value into consideration, i.e the fact that McDavid is regarded as a potential franchise centre.
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Nobody will trade #1 Overall unless Crosby+ is involved. He is supposed to be the best player of the 21st century (so far). Don't see why a team would take a chance on trading that.
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Let's say for argument's sake Edmonton wins the lottery/McDavid.
Their needs: center + defenseman (relatively young for both would help).
Team with those pieces//possible offers:
SJ: Couture + Vlasic/Burns + something
Florida: Ekblad + Huberdeau/Barkov + something
Toronto: Rielly + Nylander + something
Buffalo: Zadarov/Risto + Reinhart/Girgensons + something
**Note; Florida, Toronto, Buffalo wouldn't be adding their 1st as the "something" because OP said "no draft picks"
Sidenote: hard to gauge value on someone who isn't drafted yet/knowing what teams would give up. This was kind of hard
Their needs: center + defenseman (relatively young for both would help).
Team with those pieces//possible offers:
SJ: Couture + Vlasic/Burns + something
Florida: Ekblad + Huberdeau/Barkov + something
Toronto: Rielly + Nylander + something
Buffalo: Zadarov/Risto + Reinhart/Girgensons + something
**Note; Florida, Toronto, Buffalo wouldn't be adding their 1st as the "something" because OP said "no draft picks"
Sidenote: hard to gauge value on someone who isn't drafted yet/knowing what teams would give up. This was kind of hard
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I think you'd basically have to furnish a youngish core for what McDavid supposedly brings to the table. A potential/bonafide 1C, potential/bonafide 1D (if C is bonafide this can be potential and vice versa), and another good top-6 forward of any kind.
EDIT: Sorry, missed the no draft picks part. Probably a decent prospect as the 4th piece.
From Tampa, though I wouldn't want to see them do it: Tyler Johnson, Slater Koekkoek, Valterri Filppula, and maybe Brayden Point. That's still probably less than I think my original suggestion was a week or two ago the last time this thread came up (I believe it was Johnson+Hedman+player+pick).
EDIT: Sorry, missed the no draft picks part. Probably a decent prospect as the 4th piece.
From Tampa, though I wouldn't want to see them do it: Tyler Johnson, Slater Koekkoek, Valterri Filppula, and maybe Brayden Point. That's still probably less than I think my original suggestion was a week or two ago the last time this thread came up (I believe it was Johnson+Hedman+player+pick).
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This thread is about relative value. For example, does the total quantity of McDavid's present and future value approach that of Malkin's?
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Also for the sake of the thought experiment you are welcome to bundle players from different teams. For example Kesler + Seth Jones
Although, I'd prefer if you used players from the same team as it makes for more interesting discussion.
Although, I'd prefer if you used players from the same team as it makes for more interesting discussion.
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Let's say for argument's sake Edmonton wins the lottery/McDavid.
Their needs: center + defenseman (relatively young for both would help).
Team with those pieces//possible offers:
SJ: Couture + Vlasic/Burns + something
Florida: Ekblad + Huberdeau/Barkov + something
Toronto: Rielly + Nylander + something
Buffalo: Zadarov/Risto + Reinhart/Girgensons + something
**Note; Florida, Toronto, Buffalo wouldn't be adding their 1st as the "something" because OP said "no draft picks"
Sidenote: hard to gauge value on someone who isn't drafted yet/knowing what teams would give up. This was kind of hard
Only the Florida deal would interest me.
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I value McDavid more than any player in the league. Depending on what team he lands on, McDavid could very well lead the NHL in scoring next year. I think he's more valuable that post-concussed Crosby.
Of course, it's all potential right now. But I believe that, in his prime, he will be better than every player on the planet right now.
Of course, it's all potential right now. But I believe that, in his prime, he will be better than every player on the planet right now.
