Speculation: Chicago Rebuild Thread

[bernmeister]

Not saying it's a 1 for 1... I think Strome and cap going back to Chicago would even it up

NYR not a fit for Hawks' best pieces.

 

[b1e9a8r5s]

Start with Byram. Then start adding.

That being said, none of Toews/Kane/Keith are going anywhere unless they want to.
Keith is the only one that I'm very sure would want to leave.

Based on?

 

[Melrose Munch]

not sure I agree, but the truth is it may be time to move one. we should keep kane.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Based on?

His comments on Spittin' Chiclets. Dude seems to hate losing with a passion.

 

[Richard88]

Colorado made Chicago's life really easy for a couple of years there. In return, we request you trade us Duncan Keith to help mentor Byram and Makar. I don't think it's a big ask.

Keith is 37 and has a $5.5m caphit for 3 more years. Is he playing at a level anywhere close to be worth that caphit?

Would Chicago be open to trading Keith at 50% retained. At $2.75m it would be far more palatable to have him declining in a 3rd pairing/7D role.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Keith is 37 and has a $5.5m caphit for 3 more years. Is he playing at a level anywhere close to be worth that caphit?

Would Chicago be open to trading Keith at 50% retained. At $2.75m it would be far more palatable to have him declining in a 3rd pairing/7D role.

No....he's still a #2 with the right partner and a #3 at worst. Keith is probably never going to be worse than a 2nd pairing defender for the remainder of his career.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

NYR not a fit for Hawks' best pieces.

Where did NYR come in to this Bern? I was talking about Chicago and Florida

 

[bernmeister]

Where did NYR come in to this Bern? I was talking about Chicago and Florida

may have confiused Stromes.
sorry

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

may have confiused Stromes.
sorry

I was suggesting a package of Strome and Keith for Knight and someone else

 

[Malaka]

Honestly the only contender that has the prospect capital to make a Kane trade work is Colorado.

Let me tell you about a little place called Carolina

 

[HawksDub89]

Keith is 37 and has a $5.5m caphit for 3 more years. Is he playing at a level anywhere close to be worth that caphit?

Would Chicago be open to trading Keith at 50% retained. At $2.75m it would be far more palatable to have him declining in a 3rd pairing/7D role.

Keith is still really good, not Norris trophy good. But easily top 4, even top pair depending on the team.

he’d be perfect in Colorado with their young D imo.

 

[b1e9a8r5s]

His comments on Spittin' Chiclets. Dude seems to hate losing with a passion.

I don't put much stock in that. Unless you can show me all the interviews of players who seem fine with losing.

 

[Ace Card Bedard]

Keith is 37 and has a $5.5m caphit for 3 more years. Is he playing at a level anywhere close to be worth that caphit?

Would Chicago be open to trading Keith at 50% retained. At $2.75m it would be far more palatable to have him declining in a 3rd pairing/7D role.

Yes, Keith played very well last season.
No reason to retain. He's worth every penny of $5.5M

 

[HawksDub89]

Let me tell you about a little place called Carolina

Ah good call. Would he waive to go there though?

I could absolutely see him waiving for Colorado.

 

[HawksDub89]

Yes, Keith played very well last season.
No reason to retain. He's worth every penny of $5.5M

You retain to get a better return.

 

[Kaners PPGs]

Not a chance they would retain 50% on Kane

How do you know that? If it improves their return why wouldn't ownership consider it?

 

[Richard88]

Yes, Keith played very well last season.
No reason to retain. He's worth every penny of $5.5M

Wouldn't it make more sense for Chicago to retain though to maximise the futures return given that they're rebuilding?

 

[Kaners PPGs]

2/19/88 aren't going anywhere unless they ask to, which I don't think will happen. Pointless to discuss.

True but do you think Kane wants to stay in Chicago the next 3 years? He is a hockey nerd and wants to be in the playoffs. As a Kane fan, I want to see him play for more Cups. I'd love to see him in Colorado.

 

[Richard88]

Ah good call. Would he waive to go there though?

I could absolutely see him waiving for Colorado.

Why wouldn't Keith want to waive to get to play on the top pairing with Makar on a powerhouse team to finish off his career?

Keith ------------- Makar
Girard ----------- Johnson
Graves/Byram -- Timmins
Cole

 

[HawksDub89]

Why wouldn't Keith want to waive to get to play on the top pairing with Makar on a powerhouse team to finish off his career?

Keith ------------- Makar
Girard ----------- Johnson
Graves/Byram -- Timmins
Cole

Im sure he would...

We were talking about Kane

 

[Northernhawk]

I watched Bowmans' comments on Crawford and understand he stated the notion of going forward with Delia Lankinen and that's the route their leaning towards, but when did Bowman say it's a youth movement and that the fire sale is on? He didn't, so why is everyone assuming so?

 

[Peter Peckerwood]

Ah good call. Would he waive to go there though?

I could absolutely see him waiving for Colorado.

Fine , take Cole. At least you shorten the hit VS Keith.

 

[Peter Peckerwood]

I watched Bowmans' comments on Crawford and understand he stated the notion of going forward with Delia Lankinen and that's the route their leaning towards, but when did Bowman say it's a youth movement and that the fire sale is on? He didn't, so why is everyone assuming so?

I don't think he said fire sale, either. I've seen various different ideas on your board mostly involving Toews. It's just those salaries. In normal times, ANY team would fall all over themselves to figure something out.
We just don't have the structure amd moveable pieces. You'd have to take some cap back.

 

[JC704]

This Rangers fan would be interested in Duncan Keith. I don't know if DeAngelo would be traded, but Keith would be a great fit next to Fox/Tony/Nils (whenever he arrives), and bridge the gap until our LHD (Miller/Jones/Robertson) are ready and come into their own. After losing Hank, he would also bring a great veteran presence and has the experience of winning the Stanley Cup, which most teams usually need. I don't know what Chicago would want from New York, though.

 

[wahsnairb]

I watched Bowmans' comments on Crawford and understand he stated the notion of going forward with Delia Lankinen and that's the route their leaning towards, but when did Bowman say it's a youth movement and that the fire sale is on? He didn't, so why is everyone assuming so?

it’s literally the OP in this thread