Speculation: Chicago Rebuild Thread

[LokiDog]

What is the ask for Toews? Say one price at full money and one with 3M retained?

What kind of return would Hawks fans expect?

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

What is the ask for Toews? Say one price at full money and one with 3M retained?

What kind of return would Hawks fans expect?

1st+your team's best prospect+B prospect/2nd

 

[LokiDog]

1st+A prospect+B prospect/2nd

What about Keith?

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Kane - Panarin reunion let’s gooooo

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

What about Keith?

Probably 1st+B prospect for him.
would also be willing to retain to make his cap hit 4-$4.5M.

 

[Esq]

This thread is dumb. The Hawks will not rebuild when Kane/Toews/Keith are 30+.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

This thread is dumb. The Hawks will not rebuild when Kane/Toews/Keith are 30+.

It's already been announced by Bowman. Haven't you been paying attention today?

 

[Khelandros]

Bowman: "Now that we've made the decision the way that we're going to move forward [with youth], there's going to be a lot more things that we're going to talk about over the coming days as far as planning next year's team."
Fans: "Everyone over 30 is available, what you give me?"
Bowman Actually Means: "Zack Smith, Brent Seabrook, and Andrew Shaw are available."

 

[Sinbad]

Saad is interesting if the Hawks are legitimately rebuilding.

1. He's a bit old to be around in 3-4 years after a rebuild AND contribute for another 3-4 years during contention so there is logic is letting him leave
2. He's only signed for one more season so the Hawks can easily retain on him to send him to a contender.
3. He might not stay around if they decide to rebuild, so there is possible urgency to move him.
4. He's still young enough that a contender would offer something big and team looking for a long-term piece might want him too, especially if he can be resigned
5. He's fairly consistently productive. Almost 600 games 350 points. Even last year he was on pace for 46 points.
6. He only has a M-NTC so he can't completely block a trade.
7. He's been traded once before and was very productive so teams won't be worried.

He's definitely fetch something good, IMO.

Murphy too.

If I couldn’t get a 1st for Saad right now, I would hold out until the trade deadline; I think he’s the type of player a team would pay up for to put them over the top, like Tampa did for Goodrow and Coleman.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

This thread is dumb. The Hawks will not rebuild when Kane/Toews/Keith are 30+.

Bowman announced today team is rebuilding and focusing on youth

Then made this statement

 

[Kaners PPGs]

Kane to Colorado at 50% retention for the next 3 years. Keith to Vancouver taking back Erickson and Sutter. What does get you?

 

[SlapshotTheMovie]

Kane - Panarin reunion let’s gooooo

with what cap haha

 

[IranCondraAffair]

If I couldn’t get a 1st for Saad right now, I would hold out until the trade deadline; I think he’s the type of player a team would pay up for to put them over the top, like Tampa did for Goodrow and Coleman.

Especially if 50% retention isn't an issue. 3M for Saad at the deadline can got to any NHL team no matter how close to the cap.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

with what cap haha

Chicago will retain 90%

 

[Kaners PPGs]

WHAT?????
Kane was invisible most of the playoffs, Toews was obviously their best forward, especially against Edmonton.

You're on drugs.

Toews had a great series against Edmonton with their lousy D and hurt Klefbom. Then he faced a deep team and went silent. And we've all seen enough not to doubt Kane. Besides they each had the same number of points in the playoffs.

 

[SlapshotTheMovie]

Chicago will retain 90%

sign me up haha

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

I could see Kane/Toews sticking thru these next few years

But I think Keith will want out so he can chase another cup given his age

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

I could see Kane/Toews sticking thru these next few years

But I think Keith will want out so he can chase another cup given his age

It's really up to them. The org owes it to each to respect their wishes.

 

[HookKing]

Good luck shopping expensive vets in this market.

 

[PullHard]

That's why I think eating 3-3.5M is about the right number to move Toews.
If you want him, Glass is probably part of the package going the other way though.

Maybe. If there was no such thing as covid and the cap was rising as expected, you're probably right.

Taking on Toews, even with salary retained, in this climate is a different animal. Obviously none of us can say for certain right now how badly the market will be impacted but I guess we will find out based on signings/ trades in the next few days.

 

[bandwagonesque]

Kane and Keith with full retention to Colorado For Byram and Newhook.

 

[Taylorst]

If chicago was smart this year would be the only realistic year you could move a toews or kane . The few remaining teams that have enough cap space to take on these salaries won't be the same next year when. Its stagnant

 

[Esq]

It's already been announced by Bowman. Haven't you been paying attention today?

I don't see any reference to "rebuild" in Bowman's comments. Your assumption that there will be a firesale is unfounded.

 

[LGRDunDunDunDunDa]

Rangers-Toews 40% Retained, Keith 25% Retained
Hawks-Strome, DeAngelo, Miller or Lundquist, 2021 1st

 

[goldenbladz1]

I wasn't impressed by him in the playoffs at all. Kane, on the other hand...

Then you didn't watch the series because Kane did squat and Toews, Kubalik and Dach were the best.