Nonsense. I think he wears his whole draft record, but especially from 2012 and beyond. If the Jets prospect pool was still shallow and full of duds, I'd be the first one with a pitchfork to run him out of town. I would bet that Chipman would be ready to dump him, too. I think that the reason that Chipman still supports Chevy, and many fans do as well, is that they believe that the team has done a good job of drafting and building up a prospect pool, without making egregious errors to undermine the future of the team.
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Nonsense. I think he wears his whole draft record, but especially from 2012 and beyond. If the Jets prospect pool was still shallow and full of duds, I'd be the first one with a pitchfork to run him out of town. I would bet that Chipman would be ready to dump him, too. I think that the reason that Chipman still supports Chevy, and many fans do as well, is that they believe that the team has done a good job of drafting and building up a prospect pool, without making egregious errors to undermine the future of the team.
Keep in mind the Jets' average first pick from 2011-15 has been 11th overall. That's the 5th highest average draft spot in the NHL over that period (Edmonton, Buffalo, Florida, NY Islanders and Jets are the Top 5, in order).
So you'd expect the Jets 1st rounders to be about a Top 5 in the league prospect pool, drafting from where they have been.
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Let's be honest, it's the only reason he's still here, he's built the prospect pool but not much else. I'm fine giving him a bit more time as I stated before.....another 1-2 years to let his strategy develop.
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If the prospect pool pans out, that will mean substantial progress. If not, he should and will be gone within a few years.
I'd also say that he's marshaled the cap resources quite well. He doesn't have any real albatross contracts that will constrain the building of a contender over the next few years.
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I agree with paragraph one, less so with paragraph two. Imo the Stuart/Pavs contracts relative to where they play, slotted in the line up (top 4 lhd, #1G) and term.......have had a huge neg on this team. Those two guys alone cost us points over the years and very possibly multi playoff spots. Thank God, one is nearly gone and the other is finally being given a lesser role.
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Stu and Pavs contracts are really bad, but don't pull the Jets anywhere close to cap purgatory. I think a lot of the problem was bad decisions about usage. A lot of that is on Maurice.
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Stu and Pavs contracts didn't pull the Jets anywhere near cap purgatory.......but they sure pulled them close to non-playoffs purgatory over the last five years.
Sure it's a lot about usage, but the GM is just as reasponible for the coach as he is for the players on the roster.
But I'm looking forward to the draft and next year. We can only go up from here.
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Ohhh I don't know about that. Well more secure then mine no doubt, but you obviously not a vet at mb hydro
I have 2 scenerios for how long Chevys leash is and I would love to get your opinions on them
First I feel the Buff signing length tells us all we need to know. Chevy plans on going for it by 5 years time. Which means he would be safe for that time. You would think that was part of the reason Buff stayed at a contract that was lower then he could of received somewhere else. He was told that they are going for it in the next couple years.
My other scenerio is the length of the Sheif deal. Imo Mark signifies the start of the D & D model. And now we can can tell he will be the future cap either soon or after wheeler. So maybe until the core Sheifs leads to battle fails Chevy is safe.
First I feel the Buff signing length tells us all we need to know. Chevy plans on going for it by 5 years time. Which means he would be safe for that time. You would think that was part of the reason Buff stayed at a contract that was lower then he could of received somewhere else. He was told that they are going for it in the next couple years.
My other scenerio is the length of the Sheif deal. Imo Mark signifies the start of the D & D model. And now we can can tell he will be the future cap either soon or after wheeler. So maybe until the core Sheifs leads to battle fails Chevy is safe.
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First off welcome "new guy"! Chevy gets two years to get the team back into the playoffs or else.
Thanks! Glad to be here. I agree with you that his leash should be a couple more years. But deep down I feel its 5 to 8 years still. Chevy wont be a failure to Chipman untill " his" core has had its shot. And a long one at that.
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He will be here forever if we make the playoffs regardless of how we fare in the next 2 years ...
Sad but true
Chevy will do sweet FA this summer to correct repeated mistakes
Since the organization has made it clear to anyone who will listen they will be getting even younger next season. Which means they will be giving more of their prospects opportunities what repeated mistakes do you expect them to make? Since they can't re-sign Stu, do you expect them to re-sign Pavs and Thor early? Being overly loyal to those 3 are the organizations biggest mistakes to date.
The cruelest thing one could call Chevy would be Cowardly Caretaker.
The kindest thing would be Mild Mannered Middle Man.
Such a GM is highly unlikely to win his team a Cup, but he is also unlikely to really hurt a team.
The worst kind of GM is the Confident Clown (see Nonis, David)
Also bad is the Desperate Danger-man (see GMGM trading away Forsberg for Erat)
A type of GM that is in some ways better and some ways worse is the Cowardly Clown who will bring your team to the depths of the standings, but at least give his successor many high draft picks to work with. (see quite a few Oilers GMs)
So to sum it up; could be worse, could be better.
The kindest thing would be Mild Mannered Middle Man.
Such a GM is highly unlikely to win his team a Cup, but he is also unlikely to really hurt a team.
The worst kind of GM is the Confident Clown (see Nonis, David)
Also bad is the Desperate Danger-man (see GMGM trading away Forsberg for Erat)
A type of GM that is in some ways better and some ways worse is the Cowardly Clown who will bring your team to the depths of the standings, but at least give his successor many high draft picks to work with. (see quite a few Oilers GMs)
So to sum it up; could be worse, could be better.
OP title: Chevy Job security?
Answer: Yes
13 pages..... 300 plus posts for a rhetorical statement gang really?
You are acting incredibly naive for someone with > 15000 posts.
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OP title: Chevy Job security?
Answer: Yes
13 pages..... 300 plus posts for a rhetorical statement gang really?
But that really isn't the question is it.
Is Chevy's job secure now? Yes. Certainly
Will it be secure a year from now? Yes. With almost as much certainty.
Will it still be secure Dec. 31, '17? That depends. I think the free pass will have expired by then. Judgement by results, not process will have begun.
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OP title: Chevy Job security?
Answer: Yes
13 pages..... 300 plus posts for a rhetorical statement gang really?
Is it off-season already?
