Player Discussion: Centre depth not pulling their weight?

[Howard Chuck]

I have to disagree. Little has been ok with his line but in Finland Little line was totally invisible. Lowry line generated way more offense. Scheif and Wheels have been a bit off whole season.

I think the second game in Finland I would agree with you.

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

Any chance players are worn out from playoff run? This is first time we have had to deal with extended playoff run and is new for many of the fans and players. They are use to an extra month and a half of rest.

LA seemed to always underperform for first portion if season.

 

[Vekke]

I think the second game in Finland I would agree with you.

Can we agree that it takes too little to be the best line 5v5. Every line should pump up their game. It is more like which line has been the best of the bad ones. Without solid PP PoMo would be pretty soon able to search a new club to extend his record.

 

[Howard Chuck]

Can we agree that it takes too little to be the best line 5v5. Every line should pump up their game. It is more like which line has been the best of the bad ones. Without solid PP PoMo would be pretty soon able to search a new club to extend his record.

Yes, I can agree with this as well.

 

[Daximus]

I don't see our center depth as all that great.

Scheifele is easily a top 10 Center in the game right now. But after him we have two 3C's and a 4C. Our center depth is no where near where it was during our playoff run. Lowry looks to have taken another step forward this year but I'm just not sure he will ever hit that 2C level, Little has regressed into a 3C and Rosie is still to inexperienced yet to take on more responsibility.

 

[Halberdier]

I don't see our center depth as all that great.

Scheifele is easily a top 10 Center in the game right now. But after him we have two 3C's and a 4C. Our center depth is no where near where it was during our playoff run. Lowry looks to have taken another step forward this year but I'm just not sure he will ever hit that 2C level, Little has regressed into a 3C and Rosie is still to inexperienced yet to take on more responsibility.

I'd say Little is middle to lower tier 2nd line center currently, but for a contender that's not enough. Biggest problem with him is that he doesn't seem to fit with guys he is expected to play with, as Wheeler and Scheifele are hip jointed and thus not allowing sane line combinations, like CLW, PLW or ELW. There is nothing wrong with CLP other than it puts the best 5-on-5 goal scorer (by far) to 3rd/4th line. While that kind of fixes that "best 5-on-5 goal scorer" part as nobody can do that 3rd/4th line, that's absolutely horrible asset management.

Scheifele is obvious TOP-10 center in the game, and Lowry is super good 3rd line center. Roslovic has a lot of potential, but has been totally misused this season, so we don't know if he will make it to even a 3rd line center this season. Copp is more than adequate 3rd/4th line center as well.

 

[Halberdier]

I have to disagree. Little has been ok with his line but in Finland Little line was totally invisible. Lowry line generated way more offense. Scheif and Wheels have been a bit off whole season.

In the first game against Panthers Little was pretty good and CLP in general was making some noise. They also finally got one in the net, but I'm not considering that but their overall game that was more than OK. In the second game Little was not that good, but also I don't think either Connor or Perreault were on beast mode.

 

[Larabee]

Chevy needs to grow a pair and make a trade to get a bonafide #2 center. Trouba is not in our future. Trade him for someone like Huberdeau.

 

[Jets 31]

Some of the lack of production from our forwards comes from only having 3 of our 6 defenseman being able to move and pass the puck with speed and efficiency . If we didn't have Morrissey , Buff and Trouba we would be really hooped .

 

[Duke749]

Center is not our problem right now. People get way to mesmerized by flashy plays and box scores.

 

[Robinson2187]

Yeah don't we need a dman coming back in any Trouba deal?

 

[raideralex99]

Any chance players are worn out from playoff run? This is first time we have had to deal with extended playoff run and is new for many of the fans and players. They are use to an extra month and a half of rest.

LA seemed to always underperform for first portion if season.

I think its the opposite ... I don't think they are playing with urgency ... they know its a long season.
I believe after Christmas break they will start firing on all cylinders ... I just hope they don't have to leap frog too many teams.

 

[HannuJ]

Yeah don't we need a dman coming back in any Trouba deal?

nah our new centre will play D on the PK

 

[Duke749]

I don't see our center depth as all that great.

Scheifele is easily a top 10 Center in the game right now. But after him we have two 3C's and a 4C. Our center depth is no where near where it was during our playoff run. Lowry looks to have taken another step forward this year but I'm just not sure he will ever hit that 2C level, Little has regressed into a 3C and Rosie is still to inexperienced yet to take on more responsibility.

Scheif is not playing like a top 10 center right now and Little is certainly playing better then a 3c as well.

 

[Larabee]

Yeah don't we need a dman coming back in any Trouba deal?

Not really.

 

[Robinson2187]

Not really.

Seems pretty light on the R side without. Especially if Myers is traded as half the board is suggesting. Buff on 1st pair again is not feasible.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I don't see our center depth as all that great.

Scheifele is easily a top 10 Center in the game right now. But after him we have two 3C's and a 4C. Our center depth is no where near where it was during our playoff run. Lowry looks to have taken another step forward this year but I'm just not sure he will ever hit that 2C level, Little has regressed into a 3C and Rosie is still to inexperienced yet to take on more responsibility.

I see Little as better than that. I'm not looking at scoring stats. I'm watching him play. He does not look like last year's Little at all. He is faster and quicker. He is making good plays in all 3 zones. His s% is down. His SOG/gm are 2.07 this year compared to 1.57 last year and 2.02 the year before and 2.23 the year before that. I think he is back.

Rosie still isn't an NHL C and maybe we need to accept that he might never be. I don't mean give up on him as a C but we need to admit the possibility. That leaves us without much C depth. But I think we do have legit 1, 2, 3 and 4th line C's. Unfortunately, that means breaking up the CLT line.

 

[Adam da bomb]

I see Little as better than that. I'm not looking at scoring stats. I'm watching him play. He does not look like last year's Little at all. He is faster and quicker. He is making good plays in all 3 zones. His s% is down. His SOG/gm are 2.07 this year compared to 1.57 last year and 2.02 the year before and 2.23 the year before that. I think he is back.

Rosie still isn't an NHL C and maybe we need to accept that he might never be. I don't mean give up on him as a C but we need to admit the possibility. That leaves us without much C depth. But I think we do have legit 1, 2, 3 and 4th line C's. Unfortunately, that means breaking up the CLT line.

Little could be great if given Wheeler. Schief does not need Wheeler. Disagree on your assessment of Rosie.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Seems pretty light on the R side without. Especially if Myers is traded as half the board is suggesting. Buff on 1st pair again is not feasible.

With Trouba gone, we are pretty light on the right side ..... whether Myers is traded or not. That's the point.

If Buff has to play 1st pair again (likely) he needs to have his PP min cut way back to avoid wearing him out.

 

[Whileee]

As noted above, the Jets are the victim of some bad luck in shooting...

On-ice shooting % (2017/18):

Scheifele 7.44 (8.74)
Little 4.76 (6.95)
Lowry 4.94 (7.42)
Roslovic 5.88 (9.63)

 

[Tommigun]

Some of the lack of production from our forwards comes from only having 3 of our 6 defenseman being able to move and pass the puck with speed and efficiency . If we didn't have Morrissey , Buff and Trouba we would be really hooped .

Yeah the breakout passes from the D have been absolutely atrocious at times. It doesn’t matter who the C is if the puck isn’t moved out well.

 

[Tommigun]

Scheif is not playing like a top 10 center right now and Little is certainly playing better then a 3c as well.

Biggest disappointment overall for the season has not been Laine for me, it’s been Scheif. He looked really bad in the Helsinki games, not dangerous at all. I wonder what’s up with him? He may also suffer from the same post-playoff fatigue Laine was hinting about.

 

[Tommigun]

I see Little as better than that. I'm not looking at scoring stats. I'm watching him play. He does not look like last year's Little at all. He is faster and quicker. He is making good plays in all 3 zones. His s% is down. His SOG/gm are 2.07 this year compared to 1.57 last year and 2.02 the year before and 2.23 the year before that. I think he is back.

Rosie still isn't an NHL C and maybe we need to accept that he might never be. I don't mean give up on him as a C but we need to admit the possibility. That leaves us without much C depth. But I think we do have legit 1, 2, 3 and 4th line C's. Unfortunately, that means breaking up the CLT line.

Little has played well this year, but it’s just not reflecting on the scoreboard yet. Not at all worried about him.

Agree about Roslovic, sure he has very little ice time but there’s nothing to suggest he has a future at C. I can’t even remember a single play he’s done this year.

 

[Whileee]

Chevy needs to grow a pair and make a trade to get a bonafide #2 center. Trouba is not in our future. Trade him for someone like Huberdeau.

Huberdeau is a LW. We have plenty of those...

 

[Larabee]

Seems pretty light on the R side without. Especially if Myers is traded as half the board is suggesting. Buff on 1st pair again is not feasible.

It’s something we’re going to have to face anyway. If we don’t get another RD in a Trouba trade, then we’ll need to sign Myers and use Poolman. Kuli can play right side as well. We should be ok.