Proposal: Car-Tor

[firstemperor]

Fair trade but wouldn't do it, Pesce is more attractive to us as he can play the right side, is more stay-at-home,. and we have enough very good PMD on the club and some lesser LHD PMD prospects internally.

 

[Chan790]

But not at the expense of Nylander. I'm talking a package to acquire a top 10 d-man.

Nobody is trading you that quality of d-man for a package. Expect to hear "Matthews, Marner, Nylander or **** off." a lot.

 

[TorontoTrades]

You don't trade 1Cs for 2Ds

I don't know what's worse. Claiming Nylander is a 1C or that Slavin is a 2D.

Either project both or call them what they are. Can't do both.

Leafs can easily afford everyone. Worse case scenario you bridge Marner.

 

[shortfuze]

No thanks. The core 3 aren't available for trade.

2 of them sure are in the right deal. If it makes the team better I’m sure management would be all over it.

 

[garyturner3]

Nylander is already a proven 1C where Slavin is barely an NHL player apparently

Really? That's the conclusion you've gotten from this thread so far? Nobody's said anything remotely close to that. The worst he's been called here is a 2D, but way to take it to another level.

 

[LeafChief]

Anyone that has a clue about anything understands that the Leafs will not have a problem signing Marner, Nylander and Matthews.

Dermott is looking like he can round out into a 30 point defenceman and hes two years younger than Slavin.

No thank you.

 

[ACC1224]

Decent proposal but I think the Leafs would prefer to add to Nylander and trade for a top end #1 D then a one for one trade.

 

[Albus Dumbledore]

Idk if I'd do this deal. But for canes fans wondering Nylander does project as a center longterm. He's playing mostly c with matthews out. And if not for a logjam with everyone healthy he'd be playing c for sure.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Anyone that has a clue about anything understands that the Leafs will not have a problem signing Marner, Nylander and Matthews.

Dermott is looking like he can round out into a 30 point defenceman and hes two years younger than Slavin.

No thank you.

Dermott's pacing for 28 points now, with bottom pairing minutes and no PP time. he's looking like he can be a lot more than a 30 point defenseman

 

[Deadly Dogma]

As much a Slavin would be a great add, it would leave our fwd core wanting. (JVR/Bozak gone to f.A) Then factor in how Lilj has been developing. We are much better served to wait on Lilj, all we need him to be is a top 4 guy.

 

[bluedevil58]

This is a joke. Nylander isn't even a 1C which is what the Canes need. Nylander for Skinner. Larsson returned a Hall. Nylander is nowhere near a Hall and Slavin is like a Larsson if not better. Toronto needs to add for this to be fair. Nylander the glorious 1C has yet to out up 30 goal season and Skinner did in his first year and in a very bad team. That's a fair trade.

 

[justafan22]

fair trade but the leafs aren't dealing him for anything other than a RHD.

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

With another year missing the playoffs and a new GM, the Canes might be prepared for a Jones/Johansen or Larsson/Hall type trade.

Toronto is not going to be able to pay Matthews/Marner/Nylander (especially since Marleau is on the payroll through 2020).

So Slavin for Nylander.

As a Canes' fan, I want/expect Slavin to be part of the core. But two things are reality: 1) The Canes need more offense, including from the D and Slavin might have a 40 point ceiling (whereas Hanifin and Bean might be 50-55). 2) Like the trades mentioned above, you have to give up something to get something.

Have at it!!

Why is it that other teams can have their stars making big money, but the Leafs can't A silly assumption that it's just the Leafs that can't afford their players.

 

[BHD]

Nylander is a 1C?

 

[ACC1224]

Nylander is a 1C?

Projecting that way but still early days, what did you think of him Saturday?

 

[BHD]

Projecting that way but still early days, what did you think of him Saturday?

The Pens didn't play their best on Saturday, and I haven't watched any other games with him at C.

I still think of him as a player with tremendous vision, and who's best suited as a winger.

 

[LeafChief]

Dermott's pacing for 28 points now, with bottom pairing minutes and no PP time. he's looking like he can be a lot more than a 30 point defenseman

I agree.

I meant it as being he will be at least a 30 point defenceman.

 

[Drew311]

Nobody is trading you that quality of d-man for a package. Expect to hear "Matthews, Marner, Nylander or **** off." a lot.

I meant Nylander as part of a package..

 

[garyturner3]

This is a joke. Nylander isn't even a 1C which is what the Canes need. Nylander for Skinner. Larsson returned a Hall. Nylander is nowhere near a Hall and Slavin is like a Larsson if not better. Toronto needs to add for this to be fair. Nylander the glorious 1C has yet to out up 30 goal season and Skinner did in his first year and in a very bad team. That's a fair trade.

And Erat returned Forsberg. See how easy it is to list a bad trade? I'm begging everyone, please stop using the Hall/Larsson trade as what you perceive as the new benchmark for all d-men.

 

[Drew311]

The Pens didn't play their best on Saturday, and I haven't watched any other games with him at C.

I still think of him as a player with tremendous vision, and who's best suited as a winger.

Wouldn't a player with tremendous vision benefit most at center?

This is a joke. Nylander isn't even a 1C which is what the Canes need. Nylander for Skinner. Larsson returned a Hall. Nylander is nowhere near a Hall and Slavin is like a Larsson if not better. Toronto needs to add for this to be fair. Nylander the glorious 1C has yet to out up 30 goal season and Skinner did in his first year and in a very bad team. That's a fair trade.

So what has Slavin proven? He can lead a bad team in TOI?

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

This is a joke. Nylander isn't even a 1C which is what the Canes need. Nylander for Skinner. Larsson returned a Hall. Nylander is nowhere near a Hall and Slavin is like a Larsson if not better. Toronto needs to add for this to be fair. Nylander the glorious 1C has yet to out up 30 goal season and Skinner did in his first year and in a very bad team. That's a fair trade.

oh no, Leafs might not be able to make our version of Hall for Larsson? well shoot, if you say so

 

[bluedevil58]

So what has Slavin proven? He can lead a bad team in TOI?

+23 over 82 games on a horrible team facing top lines every night . I'm not saying Nylander is a bad player. But Slavin commands a higher return than him as does Pesce not only for their abilities but for their favorable long term contracts.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

The Pens didn't play their best on Saturday, and I haven't watched any other games with him at C.

I still think of him as a player with tremendous vision, and who's best suited as a winger.

he looks a lot better at center, and it's what he's played most of his career

 

[member 147413]

Leafs will have no issues signing our players.

Marleau’s contract is not a hinderance in the slightest.

 

[cupcrazyman]

With another year missing the playoffs and a new GM, the Canes might be prepared for a Jones/Johansen or Larsson/Hall type trade.

Toronto is not going to be able to pay Matthews/Marner/Nylander (especially since Marleau is on the payroll through 2020).

So Slavin for Nylander.

As a Canes' fan, I want/expect Slavin to be part of the core. But two things are reality: 1) The Canes need more offense, including from the D and Slavin might have a 40 point ceiling (whereas Hanifin and Bean might be 50-55). 2) Like the trades mentioned above, you have to give up something to get something.

Have at it!!

Leafs free up 26M next season & Horton is still on Robidas Island & salary cap is going up.We can let Bozak etc walk & still have enough money to pay the big boys.