Proposal: Car-Tor

[emptyNedder]

With another year missing the playoffs and a new GM, the Canes might be prepared for a Jones/Johansen or Larsson/Hall type trade.

Toronto is not going to be able to pay Matthews/Marner/Nylander (especially since Marleau is on the payroll through 2020).

So Slavin for Nylander.

As a Canes' fan, I want/expect Slavin to be part of the core. But two things are reality: 1) The Canes need more offense, including from the D and Slavin might have a 40 point ceiling (whereas Hanifin and Bean might be 50-55). 2) Like the trades mentioned above, you have to give up something to get something.

Have at it!!

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[rent free]

canes would say no

 

[golieguy19]

You don't trade 1Cs for 2Ds

 

[Drew311]

With another year missing the playoffs and a new GM, the Canes might be prepared for a Jones/Johansen or Larsson/Hall type trade.

Toronto is not going to be able to pay Matthews/Marner/Nylander (especially since Marleau is on the payroll through 2020).

So Slavin for Nylander.

As a Canes' fan, I want/expect Slavin to be part of the core. But two things are reality: 1) The Canes need more offense, including from the D and Slavin might have a 40 point ceiling (whereas Hanifin and Bean might be 50-55). 2) Like the trades mentioned above, you have to give up something to get something.

Have at it!!

The Leafs won't have a problem paying Matthews/Nylander/Marner. They won't let a short term contract or two get in the way of keeping their future core. Contracts like Marleau's and/or Martin's are easily traded if need be.

I wouldn't move Nylander at this point for Slavin, as i'm still waiting to see if he'll stick at center long term. If so I think he's more valuable than Slavin. If Nylander is getting traded I would hope the Leafs are going big game hunting.

 

[HoseEmDown]

You don't trade 1Cs for 2Ds

True, looks like Carolina will be saying no.

 

[GoldiFox]

No chance. Slavin is anchoring the Canes defense for the next 8 years.

 

[613Leafer]

Neither fan base will like it, but yea, it's probably roughly fair. Does that mean either team would do it even though it's trading from a strength to address a primary weakness? Probably not.

Though these types of hockey trades, essentially 1 for 1 trades of good players have been occurring more frequently. Jones/Johansen, Drouin/Segachev, Hall/Larsson, Henrique/Vatanen, Weber/Subban, etc.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

fair value, but I don't think the Leafs do it. We're stacked on the left

 

[Svechhammer]

You don't trade 1Cs for 2Ds

Oh you think Slavin is a 2D? Cute. Haven't heard that one before when attempting to devalue the Canes in efforts to fleece us.

 

[GoldiFox]

You don't trade 1Cs for 2Ds

I wouldn't blame any other fan for looking at Slavin's stats + a handful of games and being skeptical that he is a #1D. Most Canes' fans consider him a #1D.
I don't think you would blame any other fan for looking a Nylander's stats + a handful of games and being skeptical that he is a #1C. I assume most Leafs' fans consider he has #1C potential.

When you have an excess of something you don't trade your best one. Slavin is currently the Canes best D by a mile. They would look to move Pesce, Hanifin, Faulk, Fleury, or Bean for a similar/lesser forward before ever considering moving Slavin.

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

Leafs say no, so do Canes

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

The Leafs won't have a problem paying Matthews/Nylander/Marner. They won't let a short term contract or two get in the way of keeping their future core. Contracts like Marleau's and/or Martin's are easily traded if need be.

I wouldn't move Nylander at this point for Slavin, as i'm still waiting to see if he'll stick at center long term. If so I think he's more valuable than Slavin. If Nylander is getting traded I would hope the Leafs are going big game hunting.

You wouldn’t consider a Slavin acquisition “big game hunting”?

I don’t blame you for wanting to keep Nylander, but Slavin would be a hell of a get for Toronto.

 

[shortfuze]

You don't trade 1Cs for 2Ds

Who’s the 1C?

 

[CheMxDawG]

Who’s the 1C?

Nylander is already a proven 1C where Slavin is barely an NHL player apparently

 

[shortfuze]

Nylander is already a proven 1C where Slavin is barely an NHL player apparently

Ha ha. This is cute.

 

[Leafidelity]

No thanks. The core 3 aren't available for trade.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

You wouldn’t consider a Slavin acquisition “big game hunting”?

I don’t blame you for wanting to keep Nylander, but Slavin would be a hell of a get for Toronto.

Not really. He'd probably just replace Gardiner and although he's an improvement, he's not a big enough improvement to justify moving Nylander

 

[Spirit of 67]

Nope

 

[tom leafers]

fair value, but I don't think the Leafs do it. We're stacked on the left

Exactly, i love Slavin, would love him even more if he was a RD

 

[rent free]

Not really. He'd probably just replace Gardiner and although he's an improvement, he's not a big enough improvement to justify moving Nylander

if babcock was sensible, he'd be on the top pairing with reilly and that would kick ass

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

if babcock was sensible, he'd be on the top pairing with reilly and that would kick ass

but can we really count on him doing that? He almost definitely won't allow our top 4 defensemen to be all lefties

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Fat chance of Carolina dealing Slavin, It's more Hanifin+ for Nylander. Slavin with Carolina is as untouchable as they come.

 

[rent free]

but can we really count on him doing that? He almost definitely won't allow our top 4 defensemen to be all lefties

probably not but hopefully he would. our d core would be very good.

 

[Advanced stats]

Toronto is not going to be able to pay Matthews/Marner/Nylander (especially since Marleau is on the payroll through 2020).

Why not? We have loads of room.
We could pay them, and sign John Tavares. If we wanted too. (Not likely)

 

[Drew311]

You wouldn’t consider a Slavin acquisition “big game hunting”?

I don’t blame you for wanting to keep Nylander, but Slavin would be a hell of a get for Toronto.

But not at the expense of Nylander. I'm talking a package to acquire a top 10 d-man.