GDT: Canada vs Česko

[koyvoo]

Nah you have 10x the population, you should already be better at hockey. US isn't even that good at soccer than Canada. That's actually sad.

Even in baseball, they get their asses handed to them in the world baseball classic

 

[CN8]

if canadians were so "superior", why do canadian hockey players decide to take on american citizenship when they play for american NHL teams?

So they can make the team

 

[GirardSpinorama]

The best basketball player in the world right now isn't even American. The best basketball prospect right now isn't even American.

 

[Peiskos]

So they can make the team

Lol reminds me of Brett Hull, Canada passed over on him and the US offered him a spot...unsurprisingly Brett Hull goes on to become one of the US's best players ever lol.

 

[Kranix]

Tough turnover there for the goal. Czech players looked totally gassed in that sequence.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Well it's in the past and especially USA is almost on par with the best Canadian roster.

They’re not, but whatever helps you sleep.

if canadians were so "superior", why do canadian hockey players decide to take on american citizenship when they play for american NHL teams?

I don’t know, you’ll have to ask them?

What exactly does this have to do with Canada producing the best players, by far?

 

[Slats432]

Lol reminds me of Brett Hull, Canada passed over on him and the US offered him a spot...unsurprisingly Brett Hull goes on to become one of the World's best players ever lol.

Fixed for you. Hull chose to go to the US where he was given opportunity and treated well. And you can't diminish his accomplishment as one of the best players of all time.

if canadians were so "superior", why do canadian hockey players decide to take on american citizenship when they play for american NHL teams?

Oh...and this...

 

[Hanji]

Lol that moment when you realize more Americans live in cold weather climates than Canadians do, Americans should have plenty of opportunity to produce a generational player, but they never really have. You're grasping at straws here tbh.

Not really. Even in hockey hotbeds, football is far, far more popular. And socio-economic factors play a larger roll considering the deparity of wealth in this country is horrible.

If all our middle linebacker or DB freaks of nature played hockey, yeah, we'd be producing Bedards like hotcakes.

 

[Peiskos]

Fixed for you. Hull chose to go to the US where he was given opportunity and treated well. And you can't diminish his accomplishment as one of the best players of all time.


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I agree, although in interviews Brett Hull says that he never made that decision and that the decision to go to the US was made for him by Canada's snub. If Canada offered him a spot as they should have he just would have been another Canadian great.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Fixed for you. Hull chose to go to the US where he was given opportunity and treated well. And you can't diminish his accomplishment as one of the best players of all time.


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Hull left Canada, as he couldn’t make the team, so he gave the US a shot.

 

[nbwingsfan]

The bigger issue for the USA Hockey is the lack of access to quality athletes, Unlike Canada hockey is way down on the totem poll. There's just a higher chance Canada's greatest athletes will play hockey.

I mean we'd be producing 20 Bedards a year if hockey was as popular as football or basketball.

This is the reason many Americans roll our eyes. Canada is certainly better, but not to an overwhelming degree in a sport that is only regional in popularity here.

It's a bit like hearing Borat brag about Kazakhstan's superior potassium output.
Jmho

Yeah, we all know the 5’9 athletes in the states are picking the NBA over hockey, right?

Also imagine coming to a HOCKEY message board and saying “pffttt who cares if you’re better at hockey, we’re better in basketball”

 

[ohcomeonref]

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[Peiskos]

Not really. Even in hockey hotbeds, football is far, far more popular. And socio-economic factors play a larger roll considering the deparity of wealth in this country is horrible.

If all our middle linebacker or DB freaks of nature played hockey, yeah, we'd be producing Bedards like hotcakes.

The fact is there is no real data to suggest this is true, I've already proven this by pointing to how the US doesn't produce a generational football player or basketball player every year, two sports the US is absolutely in love with. Yet here you are saying that the US would produce a generational hockey player ever year if they were in love with hockey, lol makes zero sense whatsoever, keep coping.

 

[Monkey D Luffy]

I said Canada is the best now, but being superior means that you are basically untouchable. Any given day, any of the top 5 nations can beat Canada, that's not superior. You are the best, not superior which has been my point all the time. Americans will be the best in few years, because they are likely take over the throne, but not superior.

That's just hockey. The best team never wins 100% of the time.

 

[Golden_Jet]

If all our middle linebacker or DB freaks of nature played hockey, yeah, we'd be producing Bedards like hotcakes.

Ahh the old
If my aunt had balls analogy.

 

[Hanji]

Yeah, we all know the 5’9 athletes in the states are picking the NBA over hockey, right?

Actually, yes. Considering very, very few people have access to hockey.

 

[Slats432]

Hull left Canada, as he couldn’t make the team, so he gave the US a shot.

Not the first time Canada left a good player off the team. Not related to US or Canada hockey.

This is the team that Dave King said Hull wasn't good enough to be on.

Team Canada - U20 World Championships 1986 - Player Stats

Team Canada stats, scoring leaders and demographics breakdown at U20 World Championships in 1986. Player birth country and age distributions, draft rounds of players in the 1986 tournament.

www.quanthockey.com

From that moment Hull said he would play for the USA because Hockey Canada's junior team didn't want him in 86. Trying to put down Hull for sticking with the USA after Canada snubbed him for a junior tournament is disingenous.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Congrats to Czechia, on becoming a strong hockey country again, the last few years.

 

[NyQuil]

Yeah, we all know the 5’9 athletes in the states are picking the NBA over hockey, right?

Also imagine coming to a HOCKEY message board and saying “pffttt who cares if you’re better at hockey, we’re better in basketball”

Meh, we invented basketball anyway.

Glad they are enjoying our sport.

 

[Hanji]

Ahh the old
If my aunt had balls analogy.

Pretty much. The problem is aunts in Canada have balls. Our aunts don't have balls.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Not the first time Canada left a good player off the team. Not related to US or Canada hockey.

This is the team that Dave King said Hull wasn't good enough to be on.

Team Canada - U20 World Championships 1986 - Player Stats

Team Canada stats, scoring leaders and demographics breakdown at U20 World Championships in 1986. Player birth country and age distributions, draft rounds of players in the 1986 tournament.

www.quanthockey.com

From that moment Hull said he would play for the USA because Hockey Canada's junior team didn't want him in 86. Trying to put down Hull for sticking with the USA after Canada snubbed him for a junior tournament is disingenous.

He was snubbed because he lacked compete, and was a blue line cherry picker, who didn’t care about defence, not because he lacked skill.

This isn’t the Brett Hull thread.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Actually, yes. Considering very, very few people have access to hockey.

Huh? More US citizens live in cold weather climates where hockey is prevalent than in Canada…?

 

[NyQuil]

For the record, I do think the US is very strong right now at all positions whereas we are pretty top heavy with forwards and weaker on D and in net.

Which makes the lunacy of not having a best on best tournament that much more incomprehensible right now if you’re the NHL.

“Blah blah, no one cares.”

1980, 1996, these tournaments are often cited by US players as inspirational moments for them.

 

[Peiskos]

Huh? More US citizens live in cold weather climates where hockey is prevalent than in Canada…?

Lol ya just looking at a map and tallying up the populations of the northern states, conservative estimate is at least 100 million Americans live in cold weather climates.

 

[JackSlater]

Not the first time Canada left a good player off the team. Not related to US or Canada hockey.

This is the team that Dave King said Hull wasn't good enough to be on.

Team Canada - U20 World Championships 1986 - Player Stats

Team Canada stats, scoring leaders and demographics breakdown at U20 World Championships in 1986. Player birth country and age distributions, draft rounds of players in the 1986 tournament.

www.quanthockey.com

From that moment Hull said he would play for the USA because Hockey Canada's junior team didn't want him in 86. Trying to put down Hull for sticking with the USA after Canada snubbed him for a junior tournament is disingenous.

Not that it's relevant but that isn't the right team, both because Hull was too old for that team and also because it is a different tournament. Hull played for USA at the iihf world championship in 1986, and realistically he was not a viable candidate for the Canadian team at the time as he had barely even played in the NHL. Despite being a Canadian player he had dual citizenship through his mother (even though she also lived in Canada) and he went where he had an offer.