C Jack Eichel - Boston University, NCAA (2015 Draft)

[uggstown]

Unfortunately to the guy above, your "in at the NTDP" who is a USHL head scout, is misinformed. And he would say that to attract players to his team that may have already expressed interest in the NTDP program. 1 yr vs 2 yrs would be quite appealing to most, but its incorrect period! And yes uggs, you sign for 2yrs which is the U17 program and the intent is to sign for an additional 2 for the U18 program! The 2 teams play within the USHL. The program ends with U18s. There is a Mens U20 Team which is not part of the NTDP and allows selected players to participate in the Ivan Hlinka Tournament which includes Americans that are signed to an OHL Team. Peter Ward, who runs the NTDP, is a very close friend of mine so these are the facts!

What is the "additioinal 2" you and the other guy are talking about??
You sign on for 2 years. One year at U17 then the next one at U18 and then you are done. 2 year commitment, no additional 2.

U20's compete in the World Junior Championships, not Ivan Hlinka. Hlinka is a U18 tournament that typically features players not with the NTDP. I think there may have been 4-5 OHL players on last summer's team.

 

[IHaveNoCreativity]

So we agree that the NCAA is corrupt ?

 

[Xokkeu]

So we agree that the NCAA is corrupt ?

Only a couple of hockey programs are even profitable. If you want to criticize their operating model, football sure is a bit of a sham in that the players generate massive revenue and don't see it in cash. Of course their scholarships are worth roughly 20-40k a year and the funds are used to support sports like hockey, baseball, soccer and others.

 

[IHaveNoCreativity]

Only a couple of hockey programs are even profitable. If you want to criticize their operating model, football sure is a bit of a sham in that the players generate massive revenue and don't see it in cash. Of course their scholarships are worth roughly 20-40k a year and the funds are used to support sports like hockey, baseball, soccer and others.

Junior hockey makes money, but unless your a big team it's not much.

 

[Xokkeu]

Junior hockey makes money, but unless your a big team it's not much.

I don't have a problem with CHL teams making money.

 

[pavelich]

Meanwhile, college guys can pay their way to go to NHL camps to train with and play against guys signed to professional contracts, many of whom have years of NHL experience, and be coached by an NHL coaching staff, all without retribution. Hmm...

An excellent point. I was not endorsing their logic.

 

[haelwho]

An excellent point. I was not endorsing their logic.

Didn't think you were, just adding to the discussion

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

https://twitter.com/CH_WillyPalov/status/341563283767169024

Willy Palov ‏@CH_WillyPalov 2m
The Mooseheads have forfeited Jack Eichel's rights, will receive a second-round pick this year as compensation.

 

[William H Bonney]

https://twitter.com/CH_WillyPalov/status/341563283767169024

Willy Palov ‏@CH_WillyPalov 2m
The Mooseheads have forfeited Jack Eichel's rights, will receive a second-round pick this year as compensation.

So much for Mark Edwards' sources.

 

[SergeConstantin74]

I'ts surprising. I would have kept him at least until next year after his USNTDP stint. Now they'll just have the 34th pick in the draft for releasing him.

Anyway, he will be drafted by another team this Saturday, just not in the 1st round!

 

[IHaveNoCreativity]

That's really odd... I really thought they'd convince him.

 

[ecemleafs]

will he be drafted before or after his first year of college hockey?

 

[scoutman1]

That's really odd... I really thought they'd convince him.

something happened he was all but 100% in a moosehead jersey, so something behind the scenes went wrong, not sure what but could have been BU doing something under the table, could be something with Halifax fell through but he was convinced on coming up.....really weird.

 

[William H Bonney]

will he be drafted before or after his first year of college hockey?

After. He's 2015 eligible and is accelerating to start at BU as a 17 year old.

 

[bigbadbruins7]

I dont really know a lot about these junior drafts but I see he is eligible to be drafted again. Is there any chance that Halifax dropped him to get that pick and will pick him with a later pick? I'm assuming that other teams are afraid to waste a pick on him so maybe its some gamesmanship. could be way off here but just wondering

 

[scoutman1]

I dont really know a lot about these junior drafts but I see he is eligible to be drafted again. Is there any chance that Halifax dropped him to get that pick and will pick him with a later pick? I'm assuming that other teams are afraid to waste a pick on him so maybe its some gamesmanship. could be way off here but just wondering

well never know, if Halifax does that though and Eichel does come up I could see the league making some big changes to that rule. it would be clever for sure if they did though.

 

[bigbadbruins7]

well never know, if Halifax does that though and Eichel does come up I could see the league making some big changes to that rule. it would be clever for sure if they did though.

ok thanks. yeah i would assume that the league would not be too happy about that

 

[usascout1]

Halifax is looking at another 97 american forward to take in the later rounds in case this kid decides to go north in a year or two. So I think something fell through with Eichel I don't think he will be picked back up by them. Just my guess.

 

[DKQ]

Is Halifax the only possible destination in the Q for Eichel? Or is that any word about whether he would consider a team like Saint John (Charlie Coyle, fellow Mass native and BU player went there) or BVB?

 

[Dgill]

Willy Palov ‏@CH_WillyPalov 4h
The Mooseheads have forfeited Jack Eichel's rights, will receive a second-round pick this year as compensation.

https://twitter.com/CH_WillyPalov

 

[scoutman1]

with that 2nd round pick I can see Halifax targeting Campbell Pickard from the Halifax Major Midget year IF he is not gone by then.

 

[shello]

Actually really surprised by this, wonder what happened. Huge loss regardless.

 

[usascout1]

Maybe they will use the second round pick on Hanifin....since apparently he is the only one down in New England still talking to Q. Eichal, White and Fitzgerald are not going north this year. Askew could be another possibility of someone still trying to work a deal. IMO

 

[SergeConstantin74]

Halifax GM Cam Russell comments:

“You could live with it for another year and take your chances,†Mooseheads general manager Cam Russell explained. “But then he could tell you 12 months from now he’s going to the USHL or to university to play. You could end up with a guy on your list for four years who never reports and you don’t get anything back for him. This was our only chance to get compensation for him so we decided that was the right way to go.

“We felt there were some good indications he would be coming last year but when he didn’t report, we still felt like there was a decent chance for next year,†Russell said. “He went to the national development program but we kept having good discussions with him and his family.

“He’s decided to go back to the national development program next year and is still very high on BU. We just felt the chances of getting him here were getting slimmer so we opted to take the second-round pick instead.â€

http://thechronicleherald.ca/sports/1133541-eichel-passes-on-moose#.Ua3meIWgO64.twitter

 

[WeThreeKings]

Crushing news.. Was really hoping to see this kid in a Mooseheads jersey.

Better make up for it at the Import draft, Halifax.