C Elias Pettersson - Växjö Lakers HC, SHL (2017, 5th, VAN) Part 2

[Diamonddog01]

Kent nilssons u20 record is in danger. That record is over 40 years old!

54 points in 36 games will be tough to beat. Right now Petterson is at 31 in 23.

 

[Scorevat53]

Kent nilssons u20 record is in danger. That record is over 40 years old!

I mean its possible? Pettersson does have 32P in 23GP but he is producing at a 1.39PPG vs Kent Nilsson's 1.5PPG.
To break the record "points wise" what does he need to maintain? Do they play more games then Kent did?

 

[nowhereman]

I mean its possible? Pettersson does have 32P in 23GP but he is producing at a 1.39PPG vs Kent Nilsson's 1.5PPG.
To break the record "points wise" what does he need to maintain? Do they play more games then Kent did?

Given the era and adjustment in goals, this kid is trending toward the greatest season by a U-20 in SEL history. Even if he finishes short of Nilsson (PPG and total points-wise), what he's doing in today's game is more impressive, as far as I'm concerned.

IMO, he's looking like the kind of player who could one day be a top 10C in the NHL.

 

[BlueBull]

This guy be in the nhl next year, mark my words. him sven and boeser will be legendary.

 

[BlueBull]

I mean its possible? Pettersson does have 32P in 23GP but he is producing at a 1.39PPG vs Kent Nilsson's 1.5PPG.
To break the record "points wise" what does he need to maintain? Do they play more games then Kent did?

he would need to get 23 in 29, so if he maintains a decent pace he will beat it.

 

[Diamonddog01]

he would need to get 23 in 29, so if he maintains a decent pace he will beat it.

Right, SEL has 52 games. So he certainly has a good shot (although Nilsson's ppg will be higher).

 

[Scorevat53]

How many games will he miss for World Juniors?

 

[DDRhockey]

Right, SEL has 52 games. So he certainly has a good shot (although Nilsson's ppg will be higher).

He will miss 7 games for WJC...

 

[Diamonddog01]

He will miss 7 games for WJC...

So barring any injuries (knock on wood) he has 22 games to score 23 points. Definitely possible.

 

[Elias Pettersson]

Who cares about records? Nilsson record over 20 years old. The absolute fact is the Pettersson is hands down the best u20 SHL player in past 20 years.

 

[dellzor]

Will this guy be in the nhl next year, mark my words. him sven and boeser will be legendary.

You mean this guy will be in the NHL next year, not "Will this guy be in the nhl next year, mark my words"

 

[DDRhockey]

Who cares about records? Nilsson record over 20 years old. The absolute fact is the Pettersson is hands down the best u20 SHL player in past 20 years.

Try 41 years old...

But yeah basically Elias is the best u20 player in shl in 40 years. Even before gretzkys era.

 

[Canucks LB]

Kid is bonkers

 

[Hansen]

edit: wrong thread

 

[lawrence]

sole possession of 1st place in scoring lead in the Swedish elite league as an 18 year old.

 

[D0ctorCool]

sole possession of 1st place in scoring lead in the Swedish elite league as an 18 year old.

We get so fixated on the historic U20 scoring tables, but really, that stat alone should tell you all you need to know about Pettersson and how he's coming along.

What I find most intriguing about Pettersson's development is that I watched the 10+ game package that Jetsalternate put together, and I came away thinking Lias Andersson was the player driving the play last year. Pettersson showed some glimpses, but he was just too raw for my liking. To see how far Pettersson has come along in such a short time is just staggering.

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

sole possession of 1st place in scoring lead in the Swedish elite league as an 18 year old.

Except he is 19 yrs old

 

[Orca Smash]

Except he is 19 yrs old

Yes turned 19 2 weeks ago although I think he was tied for shl scoring lead when he was still 18.

Either way this doesnt need to keep getting repeated and he is now 19.

 

[Orca Smash]

We get so fixated on the historic U20 scoring tables, but really, that stat alone should tell you all you need to know about Pettersson and how he's coming along.

What I find most intriguing about Pettersson's development is that I watched the 10+ game package that Jetsalternate put together, and I came away thinking Lias Andersson was the player driving the play last year. Pettersson showed some glimpses, but he was just too raw for my liking. To see how far Pettersson has come along in such a short time is just staggering.

I often went back and forth with jets alternate on that video and the wjc in general, people can disagree but I place very little emphasis on those short tournaments, I almost entirely watch what a prospect does in their league over the course of the entire season, boeser had an awful world jr, and juolevi's world jr on a stacked team supposedly lead us to take him over sergachev, keller, tkachuk.

I just dont like short tournaments with small sample sizes, with players who have not played much together and certain teams are clearly several classes above others. With that said for example if you look at nylander who did well in the shl and world jr, then all the better and its a nice bonus.

Imo it can also take players lengthy adjustment periods to adapt to different rink sizes, I still think it took kuznetsov a year to adapt to the nhl ice.

 

[lawrence]

I often went back and forth with jets alternate on that video and the wjc in general, people can disagree but I place very little emphasis on those short tournaments, I almost entirely watch what a prospect does in their league over the course of the entire season, boeser had an awful world jr, and juolevi's world jr on a stacked team supposedly lead us to take him over sergachev, keller, tkachuk.

I just dont like short tournaments with small sample sizes, with players who have not played much together and certain teams are clearly several classes above others. With that said for example if you look at nylander who did well in the shl and world jr, then all the better and its a nice bonus.

Imo it can also take players lengthy adjustment periods to adapt to different rink sizes, I still think it took kuznetsov a year to adapt to the nhl ice.

anytime he's represented Sweden at any tournament, ANY tourny he seems to not do much. That's a proven fact. Not a liability, but not ripping it up either.

 

[DDRhockey]

anytime he's represented Sweden at any tournament, ANY tourny he seems to not do much. That's a proven fact. Not a liability, but not ripping it up either.

On the other side, his numbers are fantastic in every regular season league he played in.

People should take more stock into regular season.

 

[Orca Smash]

anytime he's represented Sweden at any tournament, ANY tourny he seems to not do much. That's a proven fact. Not a liability, but not ripping it up either.

I dont think anyone said anything different...

He did quite well at the 4 nations tournament for sweden but it was on bigger ice if I recall. Its going to be an adjustment period for him on north america ice.

I would be shocked if someone his caliber putting up these numbers cant adjust, but people can continue to doubt him based on these short tournaments on small ice. We can revisit this later.

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

Canuck fans should be well aware that dominating the WJC doesnt equate to NHL succrss.
( cody hodgson, jordan schroeder)

Were hoping Juolevi doesnt fall under those terms as well.

 

[DDRhockey]

Canuck fans should be well aware that dominating the WJC doesnt equate to NHL succrss.
( cody hodgson, jordan schroeder)

Were hoping Juolevi doesnt fall under those terms as well.

he is dominating SHL. It is only his detractors that bring up short tournaments which he has been injured in a lot.

 

[VeteranNetPresence]

Canuck fans should be well aware that dominating the WJC doesnt equate to NHL succrss.
( cody hodgson, jordan schroeder)

Were hoping Juolevi doesnt fall under those terms as well.

Boeser is an example of this as well where he didn't look great, so I don't put much stock in WJC performance