Proposal: Bruins Trade Proposals/Rumours '17 - '18 (post 'em here)

[LouJersey]

NBC plans for tomorrow include a segment on the possibility that the Bruins are now shopping Tuukka. Pierre has put together a piece that compares Dobbie and Tim Thomas in 2011 and NBC is hearing whispers that Tuukka might be a cancer in the room.

I have heard the exact opposite from a peer of McGuries, albeit it was two years ago. I flat out asked the question (thru a mutual friend) and a couple weeks later was told there was nothing too it from his Bruins sources. Pm me if you need the name.

 

[LouJersey]

Horrible trade for us....makes no sense to me....

How did you like "The Rock"? Was it your first time there?

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Horrible trade for us....makes no sense to me....

I'd hate to lose some of our young talent because we traded for RNH. Not to mention add him to the team and if Krejci isn't 100% healthy your in trouble with 23 mil tied up in RNH, Backes, DK, and Beleskey.

All this team needs is JFK (or Fitz) to step up as the new 40-50 point 3rd line center Spooner replacement relatively soon and the forwards are set. There is nothing to do but shift Backes/Beleskey (and maybe DK) cap hits to the kids currently on ELCs as they come off of them.

D is another story. Add a good 2nd pairing guy if you can. We don't have much money tied up in that position get someone good and entice Chara to go year to year at a team friendly hit.

 

[BruinDust]

What even happened to RNH ? He seemed like he was going to be a great two way center

He actually is a very good two-way center.

But he'll never be the offensive star he was pegged to be.

I'd take RNH in the right deal. Ryan Spooner couldn't carry his jock, no comparison between the two. RNH is a better offensive player and a far better defensive player than Spooner.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

He actually is a very good two-way center.

But he'll never be the offensive star he was pegged to be.

I'd take RNH in the right deal. Ryan Spooner couldn't carry his jock, no comparison between the two. RNH is a better offensive player and a far better defensive player than Spooner.

Rnh came into a bad situation with hemsky and gagner as his mentors. Once they finally moved those guys some bad habits were forming. It didnt help that the team fired coaches every year.

Losing sucks for many of these young studs who have no experience losing before now

Rnh did the right thing by trying to become a 2way player but shoulder injuries effected his offense

And honestly hes not that good defensively... he tries but hes small and horrific on faceoffs

Then along comes mcjesus and draisailt... and all looks lost for rnh but just as the casket is closing a funny thing happens

Rnh finds his offensive confidence again. For the past month hes a ppg player and looking like a first overall pick. Id say hes been oilers best player this month

Hes surprisingly still very young. I wouldnt write off his offense just yet. With the confidence of his coach and focusing more on offense than defense, rnh has some real tools

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

I'd hate to lose some of our young talent because we traded for RNH. Not to mention add him to the team and if Krejci isn't 100% healthy your in trouble with 23 mil tied up in RNH, Backes, DK, and Beleskey.

All this team needs is JFK (or Fitz) to step up as the new 40-50 point 3rd line center Spooner replacement relatively soon and the forwards are set. There is nothing to do but shift Backes/Beleskey (and maybe DK) cap hits to the kids currently on ELCs as they come off of them.

D is another story. Add a good 2nd pairing guy if you can. We don't have much money tied up in that position get someone good and entice Chara to go year to year at a team friendly hit.

We could never add a contract like rnh without moving one... at least for next 2 years. I think any plan to bring him in automatically would include moving one of krejci or backes

The big problem is edmonton must clear cap room if they intend to keep maroon and get nurse signed... not to mention strome and whatever they do with benning

That mcdavid contract jumps around 9 mill next year

 

[JP Nolan]

How did you like "The Rock"? Was it your first time there?

First hockey game amazingly...I have seen many concerts there....The hockey experience was great. Way nicer building then Philly....Great game.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

So after 3 consecutive starts because the guy is playing lights out, all of sudden he's the next Thomas, and Rask is a dressing room cancer.

Seems a little tooooo coincidental for my liking.......I smell bull manure.

Not saying this story isn't bull, especially for Dobby... I can hunt it down if you don't believe me, but a few years ago a fairly respectable poster alluded to the idea that when the Bruins had acquired Jones, the original plan may have involved keeping Jones and moving Rask.

I don't think Dobby gives them enough confidence to move Rask. but I do think the Bruin's aren't exactly hanging up if Rask's name is brought up. Now, if an actual offer worth thinking about comes in, that's a completely different discussion. But I don't think Rask is on the team's untouchable list.

 

[lucic27]

FIRST LINE IS OK ( Marchand Bergeron Pastrnark )

SECOND LINE ( Debrusk Storme Ritchie )

Storme and Ritchie play for same line niagara ice dog ohl Ritchie is a power foward 6 ft 3 220 lbs possibility 25 goals storm excellent center an Debrusk fit whit two guy

THIRD LINE ( Foligno Backes Bjork )

FOURTH LINE ( Schaller Kuraly Nash )

TRADE KRECI AND KRUG FOR STORME AND kLEFBORN REUNIT LUCIC AND KRECI



TRADE VATRANO AND CHELARIK FOR RITCHIE

TRADE SPONNER BELESKY CHOICE FOR FOLIGNO


MARCAND BERGERON PASTRNARK
DEBRUSK STORME RITCHIE
FOLIGNO BACKES BJORK
SHALLER KURALY NASH

( ACCIARI AND HEINEN ) SPARE

CHARA MCAVOY
KLEFBOM CARLO
GRZELCYK MILLER

O' GARA RASK AND KUDO

THIS CLUB IS BETTER MORE YOUNG MORE EXPENCIVE FOR THE FUTUR SINGNATURE CONTRACT MORE STRONG

 

[Fenway]

How did you like "The Rock"? Was it your first time there?

@LouJersey 'The Rock' is the best hockey building in the NYC Metro by far. I think this is the Devils' 11th season there and the biggest challenge for the marketing people is getting fans from the affluent Jersey burbs to drive into Newark that are not served by NJ Transit.

 

[BruinDust]

Not saying this story isn't bull, especially for Dobby... I can hunt it down if you don't believe me, but a few years ago a fairly respectable poster alluded to the idea that when the Bruins had acquired Jones, the original plan may have involved keeping Jones and moving Rask.

I don't think Dobby gives them enough confidence to move Rask. but I do think the Bruin's aren't exactly hanging up if Rask's name is brought up. Now, if an actual offer worth thinking about comes in, that's a completely different discussion. But I don't think Rask is on the team's untouchable list.

I believe you, the story about Jones/Rask has been confirmed by some respected posters.

Do I think they would NEVER move Rask, no I don't. He's not untouchable, but really outside of a few guys, who is?

But when I hear stories like "he's a locker-room cancer, blah, blah" I just shake my head.

Sure, Rask may have his days when he is less than pleasant to work with. Same as most people.

But he's been in Boston full-time 8 years now. I don't believe for one second if this guy was a real problem they wouldn't of shipped him out the door first opportunity. Have the Boston Bruins ever been a team that has tolerated long-term dressing room problems?

I do think after 3 seasons of not having two quality goaltenders, it blows my mind how many here want to ship Rask out of town after a hot streak by Khudobin. You need two good goaltenders now. This is a VERY good thing for the 2017-18 Boston Bruins. And yet many posters want to immediately bust it up.

If some team called up Sweeney and blew his socks off with an offer, sure he should consider it. But if he's actively shopping Rask, he's an idiot.

 

[chizzler]

Dobby's streak is just what the doctor ordered for the media.

 

[JP Nolan]

@LouJersey 'The Rock' is the best hockey building in the NYC Metro by far. I think this is the Devils' 11th season there and the biggest challenge for the marketing people is getting fans from the affluent Jersey burbs to drive into Newark that are not served by NJ Transit.

I live in the burbs in a place called Manalapan in South Jersey just past central jersey.....40 minutes door to door on the turnpike....the trip is very easy from anywhere i think. It is the Newark thing if anything that keeps people away....You are right, great building.

 

[JP Nolan]

FIRST LINE IS OK ( Marchand Bergeron Pastrnark )

SECOND LINE ( Debrusk Storme Ritchie )

Storme and Ritchie play for same line niagara ice dog ohl Ritchie is a power foward 6 ft 3 220 lbs possibility 25 goals storm excellent center an Debrusk fit whit two guy

THIRD LINE ( Foligno Backes Bjork )

FOURTH LINE ( Schaller Kuraly Nash )

TRADE KRECI AND KRUG FOR STORME AND kLEFBORN REUNIT LUCIC AND KRECI



TRADE VATRANO AND CHELARIK FOR RITCHIE

TRADE SPONNER BELESKY CHOICE FOR FOLIGNO


MARCAND BERGERON PASTRNARK
DEBRUSK STORME RITCHIE
FOLIGNO BACKES BJORK
SHALLER KURALY NASH

( ACCIARI AND HEINEN ) SPARE

CHARA MCAVOY
KLEFBOM CARLO
GRZELCYK MILLER

O' GARA RASK AND KUDO

THIS CLUB IS BETTER MORE YOUNG MORE EXPENCIVE FOR THE FUTUR SINGNATURE CONTRACT MORE STRONG

WOW.....just wow.

 

[ODAAT]

Dobby's streak is just what the doctor ordered for the media.

not to mention fans here

 

[frickinbobby]

His low danger save % is right about the same as during his Vezina season. His medium and high danger save % has plummeted. Has Rask gotten worse at those shots, or has the team made more egregious errors in the low and high slot? Both?

I think Rask is one of the most technically sound goalies in the NHL. I think he is mediocre at best in the scramble mode that poor defensive teams often put on their goalies. There is evidence to state that if you put an elite defensive team in front of Rask that plays with structure, he is MORE than worth his paycheck. And there is evidence to state that if you don't, well, he might not be.

this is the core of the problem. Were the Stanley Cup champs poor on defense? No. Was Thomas forced to scramble? Yes. Why? Because scrambling is part of being a goalie and the idea or expectation that it could ever not be is completely 100% wrong.

 

[Fenian24]

I'd hate to lose some of our young talent because we traded for RNH. Not to mention add him to the team and if Krejci isn't 100% healthy your in trouble with 23 mil tied up in RNH, Backes, DK, and Beleskey.

All this team needs is JFK (or Fitz) to step up as the new 40-50 point 3rd line center Spooner replacement relatively soon and the forwards are set. There is nothing to do but shift Backes/Beleskey (and maybe DK) cap hits to the kids currently on ELCs as they come off of them.

D is another story. Add a good 2nd pairing guy if you can. We don't have much money tied up in that position get someone good and entice Chara to go year to year at a team friendly hit.

40-50 point third line centers don't just magically appear because people on here overrate Bruin prospects. JFK may become a good defensive third line center but I don't ever see him as a 20g 20a guy, just my opinion. Fitzgerald I doubt ever sees the NHL. The Bruins are not deep at center in the NHL or in prospects, Frederic and JFK may someday become third line center with Frederic having more offensive upside.

I would love to move Krecji but I don't think you get much for him, I doubt he waives his NMC and you have to find a fit with a team looking fro a 7 million a year center who is rarely healthy and continues to break down.

While I am no fan of Sweeney some of Chiarelli's deals make t very tough for him to have any kind of short/mid term outlook. Rask and Krecji are both big contracts for declining players with full NMC's, add the Beleskey signing and it makes any type of franchise changing/significant move very difficult. I also don't have much if any faith in Sweeney's ability to make a move that will benefit the team.

As much as I hate sacrificing a season I would hold onto what they have and clean out management and the coaching staff after the season and bring in a whole new management structure with fresh eyes to really evaluate the current crop of prospects and not be overly enamored with them.

 

[LouJersey]

@LouJersey 'The Rock' is the best hockey building in the NYC Metro by far. I think this is the Devils' 11th season there and the biggest challenge for the marketing people is getting fans from the affluent Jersey burbs to drive into Newark that are not served by NJ Transit.

Sadly lots of people here hear "Newark" and that's a shame. I work in Paterson and I always get asked if I've been shot yet.

Newark is so easy to get to. It's a straight shot down rt 21 and you don't go near any bad neighborhoods. Admittedly it was tough year one as the area around wasn't cleaned up. I actually had my ten year old son in the car when a guy opened his jacket on the corner to try to sell me some crack. It was funny because my son was like "Was that crack daddy?", I'm like no he's selling watches and my son is like "it was crack dad. I watch COPS" lol

You can take a train right into Newark Penn Station but many northerners still don't. There are some great restaurants around the area now and it's a nice area.

 

[Mainehockey33]

Ryan Nugent Hopkins is a name that really interests me. I don’t know what it wouldn’t take to get him but I think his best days are still ahead of him.

 

[Greek_physique]

I understand Rask and goalies in general, don't have high trade value...but I personally think Talbot is horrible and RNH has bust written all over him.

When I think of centermen, I want someone that'll make others around him better......while he's good; I dont think he'll elevate others.

Yes, we need help up front...but let's grab a winger if possible

Plus, I also feel like Khudobin will fall back down to earth and Tuukka will be back to top form again.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

this is the core of the problem. Were the Stanley Cup champs poor on defense? No. Was Thomas forced to scramble? Yes. Why? Because scrambling is part of being a goalie and the idea or expectation that it could ever not be is completely 100% wrong.

Some goalies are stronger than others when they have to “scramble”. I don’t think it’s a strength for Rask, which is why he probably tries to limit it happening.

On the other hand, goalies like TT and AK are more comfortable “scrambling”. What a lot of people seem to miss is that poor positioning and reads on the initial plays often force those types of goalies to make those highlight diving saves to begin with.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

As much as I hate sacrificing a season I would hold onto what they have and clean out management and the coaching staff after the season and bring in a whole new management structure with fresh eyes to really evaluate the current crop of prospects and not be overly enamored with them.

I'd tend to agree. But the 4 rookie forwards and Khudobin might save his job. McAvoy too but he was expected to be good and be a ROY contender after the playoffs.

I have no faith in him to make an NHL level trade that improves the team and gives us the best player in the deal. None what so ever. Pigs will fly before this GM makes a trade involving vets where the Bruins walk away with the best player.

But if Bjork/Heinen/DeBrusk/Cehlarik are legit top 9 guys the team is set short term and long term. You just need a center to develop and replace Spooner. And one of the LD prospects to be an NHLer. Its reasonable t o think we have that in the system. All that is left is via buyouts or whatever shift Beleskey and Backes money to the kids. Which doesn't have to be done right now.

 

[Bruinaura]

It's Murphy, so

 

[ORRMAN]

The Bruins are loaded with prospects. The kind of deal I would like to see is something like Zboril, Heinen, and Belesky for Jacob Trouba. Free up some cap space to absorb Trouba's contract. I like Heinen and believe Zboril has strong upside, but we won't have room for all our prospects in the next two or three years. Moving a couple of our better prospects and locking in a number 3 D for years to come? That's the kind of move Sweeney needs to make.

Big Sweeney fan, BTW.

 

[SpeedyLazaro]

It's Murphy, so

I'd do that all day. Give RNH a change of scenery and an opportunity to learn from Bergeron.