Confirmed Signing with Link: Bruins sign Mitchell Miller (Mod warning, Post 1350)

[Soundwave]

If this kid is half as bad as this woman claims, we would hear a lot more from others.

Right now, its one incident - and we have not heard both, complete sides.

It's multiple incidents of racial slurs and putting a candy in a urinal on top of that, and so what if there aren't reports of others. We know what his side was. It was no big deal according to him. Lets see if you would agree if someone did that to your kid if you ever have one. I bet you would be enraged.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Judge slams pair's role in bullying case

What reports? Prove it.

Assen na yo!

You didnt prove it, You just posted an article. Where in the article does it detail what the judge says about Miller's letter?

 

[Soundwave]

The Bruins will back out of this too IMO, Sweeney already said he was really on the fence about this and that was before several Bruins players came out in public to bash the move which now makes Sweeney look like an idiot and before Bettman himself came out and basically said "the NHL does not want this, don't be a dummy and go ahead with it".

I think Sweeney got a rude awakening this weekend that this shit is not gonna fly for him.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

That's what I said in response to the 55 pages of defense claim. Perspective is important.

MOD

When someone says "Yet there is 55 pages here of defending the vile pervert. "
Are you telling me you actually think this guys is saying "the sole purpose of this thread has been nothing but 55 pages of defending him"?

Bc someone who isn't living in the clouds would recognize what he's saying is that through 55 pages, this thread features mitchell defenders consistently through the entire thing. But I guess the difference here is you're clinging desperately to a literal take when an actual honest, reasonable person would realize how stupid it is to do so.

Separately. Like I just quoted. You went to "Very few posts are defending him" This is now a unique take of YOURS. One that I pointed out was incorrect. You thens tupidly adjusted to "well 99% of posts arent defending him" in direct reply to me saying that ":very few posts are defending him" is a pretty bad take.

Again. These are either extremely dishonest or extremely dumb takes.

And during our back and forth you have a good dozen plus people who've chimed in to minimize or dismiss what Miller did. People questioning the victims and moms integrity. Basically all the stuff that's been going on through most of the 55 pages of this thread...which...yknow...is what that guy was actually implying.

 

[PBandJ]

Turns out he ignored attempts by Special Hockey AZ and OH to reach out and work with him.

But he's so remorseful and wants to better himself, guyz!

 

[TaLoN]

The Bruins will back out of this too IMO, Sweeney already said he was really on the fence about this and that was before several Bruins players came out in public to bash the move which now makes Sweeney look like an idiot and before Bettman himself came out and basically said "the NHL does not want this, don't be a dummy and go ahead with it".

I think Sweeney got a rude awakening this weekend that this shit is not gonna fly for him.

NHL contracts are guaranteed. They can't just choose to terminate it. They'll need to buy it out to get out of it.

 

[RobBrown4PM]

The rest of it is this

- I hate bullies personally, and never was one.
- I know many bullies, that learned over time, how awful they were, as kids.
- what's both kids history ? Was Mitchell from a bad family ?
- this Mitchell kid is gonna hear about this, for the rest of his life. He will be on a short leash.
- continuing to educate and attend community events, is bound to drive home good practices. He has indicated this.
- I'll agree, a greesy kid this Mitchell, but let's hear more from someone, other then the victims mom

- Miller abused a mentally disabled kid for YEARS
- There is CCTV footage of some of the events
- The VICTIM (Who you seemingly don't appear to mention?) was already dealing with challenges he never asked for when Miller brutally abused him, creating further challenges for the kid.
- Miller performed 25hrs of court mandated community service.
- The judge residing over the case apparently didn't find Miller remorseful.

After the aforementioned events, Miller is now being told that he is now being given the opportunity to join the 1% of society.

Fame, fortune, wine, cars, women, luxury clothes, expensive food, trips across the world, every single need and want given to him on a gold platter.

What does the victim get?
A continued existence with a disability caused by a genetic anomaly he never asked for.
Trauma brought on by the conscious decision making of other human beings

Mitchell Miller is not entitled to play hockey. Did you know that there are innumerable other professions in the world?

Mitchell Miller signing a disservice to the Bruins and the victim’s family

The Bruins will risk fracturing a tight-knit locker room if or when they call up Miller. Read more at Boston.com.

www.boston.com

 

[PostBradMalone]

To the NHLPA, this isn't about Miller, it's about Bettman trying to take unilateral power not given to him by the CBA. The NHLPA has no choice but to fight Bettman on that to prevent such a precedent from taking hold.

They would be completely negligent as an entity for the players if they didn't fight that.

The PA should welcome a mechanism that allows the league to protect its reputation and integrity. The Bruins players who have spoken out are almost universally against Miller entering their locker room, and for good reason. Why on earth would they support their own union then forcing such a situation upon them? That’s lunacy.

 

[Soundwave]

NHL contracts are guaranteed. They can't just choose to terminate it. They'll need to buy it out to get out of it.

Once they are actually in the league, sure, Miller is a long way from that, and even guys who are in the league and have put up 20 goal pace seasons in recent history can find their ass in the KHL or Europe faster than you can blink.

No one is owed shit here.

If you have ambitions for being in a high profile, public work setting, here's a f***ing pro-tip. Don't be an asshole. Yes, even when you're 14. Especially a racist asshole. It will come back to bite you in the ass in this day and age.

These are billion dollar brands, people don't want your dirty laundry stinking up the room.

 

[TaLoN]

When someone says "Yet there is 55 pages here of defending the vile pervert. "
Are you telling me you actually think this guys is saying "the sole purpose of this thread has been nothing but 55 pages of defending him"?

Bc someone who isn't living in the clouds would recognize what he's saying is that through 55 pages, this thread features mitchell defenders consistently through the entire thing. But I guess the difference here is you're clinging desperately to a literal take when an actual honest, reasonable person would realize how stupid it is to do so.

Separately. Like I just quoted. You went to "Very few posts are defending him" This is now a unique take of YOURS. One that I pointed out was incorrect. You thens tupidly adjusted to "well 99% of posts arent defending him" in direct reply to me saying that ":very few posts are defending him" is a pretty bad take.

Again. These are either extremely dishonest or extremely dumb takes.

And during our back and forth you have a good dozen plus people who've chimed in to minimize or dismiss what Miller did. People questioning the victims and moms integrity. Basically all the stuff that's been going on through most of the 55 pages of this thread...which...yknow...is what that guy was actually implying.

Oh, so you are crediting him for not being literal, then think my statement is meant literally and not made in "perspective" comparatively?

Sure...

 

[TaLoN]

The PA should welcome a mechanism that allows the league to protect its reputation and integrity. The Bruins players who have spoken out are almost universally against Miller entering their locker room, and for good reason. Why on earth would they support their own union then forcing such a situation upon them? That’s lunacy.

The NHLPA cannot allow the NHL to unilaterally operate on Bettman's whim. That is a HUGE step towards loss of bargaining power.

 

[Masked]

You didnt prove it, You just posted an article. Where in the article does it detail what the judge says about Miller's letter?

He never did. Like I already said, the judge made those comments during the sentencing, not during the court ordered apology. Can you prove that the judge made similar comments about Miller's apology?

Assen na yo

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Oh, so you are crediting him for not being literal, then think my statement is meant literally and not made in "perspective" comparatively?

Yes. bc you separately made an individually incorrect statement and compounded it with something even more nonsensical.

"This has been 55 pages of pure defense" is one thing

"There are very few posts defending him" Is another VERY different thing.

So when I pointed out that the SECOND thing is incorrect, it is flat out dishonest to do what you do when you said

"99% of posters arent defending him"

This would be something you would say to contradict quote 1...and only if you were dishonest enough to take him literally.

This makes zero sense to say as a reply to me saying that "very few posts are defending him" is in conflict with reality.

He never did. Like I already said, the judge made those comments during the sentencing, not during the court ordered apology. Can you prove that the judge made similar comments about Miller's apology?

Assen na yo

Still waiting for you to provide any evidence of what the judge said in response to the letter.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

The magistrate made those comments about Miller's lack of remorse at the sentencing, not during his court ordered apology.

Claiming Miller harassed the victim with racial abuse for 2 years after the court case is nonsensical. If he had done that, the victim's mother would have gone to the police and Miller would have gone to the juvenile detention center for 5 days for breaking his no contact order.

Assen na yo.

Isaiah's mom literally stated he kept doing it two year before his draft.

So I don't give two f***s about your opinion on actual facts.

Whatever gitchy gitchy Na yo.

 

[MXD]

NHL contracts are guaranteed. They can't just choose to terminate it. They'll need to buy it out to get out of it.

One would think the NHL would accept a termination in this case, no?

(The NHLPA would then probabably grieve this)

 

[TaLoN]

One would think the NHL would accept a termination in this case, no?

Termination is against CBA rules unless it's mutual. The NHLPA wouldn't allow it to happen.

 

[PBandJ]

One would think the NHL would accept a termination in this case, no?

The PA would never allow that, and it makes sense why.

The Bruins are gonna have to eat shit here. I wouldn't be surprised if they just bought it out.

 

[Soundwave]

One would think the NHL would accept a termination in this case, no?

Glady, lol.

NHL basically sent a message to Sweeney of "don't be stupid, this kid is not playing for you".

 

[MXD]

Termination is against CBA rules unless it's mutual. The NHLPA wouldn't allow it to happen.

I shouldn't post before completing my posts

The PA would never allow that, and it makes sense why.

The Bruins are gonna have to eat shit here. I wouldn't be surprised if they just bought it out.

They'll grieve it, and like litterally all other grievances, the termination will be "settupheld". Meaning Mitchell Miller will probably end up with something like 80% of his AHL deal.

 

[Soundwave]

Sweeney will cave.

Direct from the commissioner of the damn league is against this, his own top players are against this, and the media is ripping him a new one too.

Not worth it. For what? Maybe a no.3/4 D at best, lol. Sweeney probably knows after the last 48 hours, he dun goofed on this. He was probably hoping it would be a small story, but it's become the no.1 story in the NHL and it's overshadowing his team's start.

 

[Masked]

Still waiting for you to provide any evidence of what the judge said in response to the letter.

Why are you waiting for something that never happened?

Assen na yo!

 

[Soundwave]

Turns out he ignored attempts by Special Hockey AZ and OH to reach out and work with him.

But he's so remorseful and wants to better himself, guyz!

Yeah again, I don't think he's really sorry. Is he more mature now ... sure I would hope so, but I don't think he's really that sorry for what he did either.

And I think a lot of his shit behavior comes from shit parenting on his parents part, and his parents are probably behind the scenes telling him it wasn't that big of a deal as well, which has probably ironically is killing his career chances.

If his parents had half a brain and they saw their kid had an actual shot at the NHL, even from a cold, ruthless POV they should have ordered their dumb ass kid to go kiss the ass of that kid and his parents for a year, two years, whatever it takes. Cut their grass, shovel their side walk, whatever.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

You know it's bad when Bettman goes against his own team that he let get away with suspensions. This means fire Sweeny.

Unless it means Bettman's team is now Vegas.

 

[Crazy8oooo]

Sorry bub. Gary Bettman and the AHL already said he's ineligible. Thanks for playing.


If you think those were real apologies then that's on you.

I couldn’t care less whether his apologies are sincere or not. You made the claim that he didn’t apologize when in fact he did. You just choose to claim something that’s false.

 

[Seachd]

Indeed, things are changing. But as many recent events have shown, there is a long way to go.

Which recent events?