Value of: Brodin+Coyle to your team

[AKL]

That's exactly the type of player you look for when you're in the Wild's situation.

Not as the main target it isn't. You target someone better than Galchenyuk and Drouin.

 

[Deam78]

If we're packaging Brodin and Coyle, it's because we're aiming for a much better piece than Galchenyuk. There is nothing you could offer or add for Brodin AND Coyle that would entice me to move them both to Montreal.

Well all I'm saying is that the Wild wanted Galchenyuk and offered Brodin (apparently) so I guess Wild must have interest in him lol

 

[Bazeek]

Well all I'm saying is that the Wild wanted Galchenyuk and offered Brodin (apparently) so I guess Wild must have interest in him lol

Fletcher had interest in him, definitely.

So you see the problem.

 

[2Pair]

Not as the main target it isn't. You target someone better than Galchenyuk and Drouin.

You're not going to get much better for a guy like Brodin.

 

[AKL]

Well all I'm saying is that the Wild wanted Galchenyuk and offered Brodin (apparently) so I guess Wild must have interest in him lol

That's complete speculation on the media's part. Nothing official every came out about the Wild offering Brodin (that I can remember, link it if you have it).

That was also a year ago. And especially with a new GM coming in, that ship has likely sailed. I can tell you as it stands, not a lot of Wild fans are going to be interested in Galchenyuk.

 

[Deam78]

Fletcher had interest in him, definitely.

So you see the problem.

I see the problem, but at the same time I wouldn't trade Galchenyuk for one of those guy alone. I think he has more value than them.

In fact, I do not want to trade Galchenyuk, I'm just trying to gauge the value of your package by seeing what that plus would be.

 

[AKL]

You're not going to get much better for a guy like Brodin.

That's why you package him to maximize value.

 

[Deam78]

That's complete speculation on the media's part. Nothing official every came out about the Wild offering Brodin (that I can remember, link it if you have it).

That was also a year ago. And especially with a new GM coming in, that ship has likely sailed. I can tell you as it stands, not a lot of Wild fans are going to be interested in Galchenyuk.

I get your point... But IMO this is exactly the kind of player you're looking to add to your roster.

 

[AKL]

I get your point... But IMO this is exactly the kind of player you're looking to add to your roster.

He's not. He's in the bad area between a young established star and an even younger high potential prospect. He's not a 70+ point dynamic scorer, and he's not going to be. THAT'S exactly what we're looking for. Not more middling tweeners who won't move the needle a la Nino, Coyle and Zucker.

 

[Deam78]

He's not. He's in the bad area between a young established star and an even younger high potential prospect. He's not a 70+ point dynamic scorer, and he's not going to be. THAT'S exactly what we're looking for. Not more middling tweeners who won't move the needle a la Nino, Coyle and Zucker.

Wait, so you're telling me you're looking for a surefire young 70 pts player? No way that package get you that lol

 

[AKL]

Wait, so you're telling me you're looking for a surefire young 70 pts player? No way that package get you that lol

We have a variety of assets that we can package to acquire what we're looking for, assuming what we're looking for is available. So far, it isn't. Zucker, Coyle, Nino, Brodin, Spurgeon, picks, prospects all being available, trust me that we have the assets.

 

[Deam78]

We have a variety of assets that we can package to acquire what we're looking for, assuming what we're looking for is available. So far, it isn't. Zucker, Coyle, Nino, Brodin, Spurgeon, picks, prospects all being available, trust me that we have the assets.

Ok, I mean the thread is Brodin+Coyle, so I thought that's what you were referring to.

 

[2Pair]

He's not. He's in the bad area between a young established star and an even younger high potential prospect. He's not a 70+ point dynamic scorer, and he's not going to be. THAT'S exactly what we're looking for. Not more middling tweeners who won't move the needle a la Nino, Coyle and Zucker.

Galchenyuk is 24, Drouin 23. What would you have said about Granlund when he was 23-24?

 

[Digitalbooya]

That's complete speculation on the media's part. Nothing official every came out about the Wild offering Brodin (that I can remember, link it if you have it).

That was also a year ago. And especially with a new GM coming in, that ship has likely sailed. I can tell you as it stands, not a lot of Wild fans are going to be interested in Galchenyuk.

I'd be interested in Galchenyuk. Not going to pay a premium to acquire though. Coyle+something.

 

[SnS]

Flyers should be interested in brodin. But I’m not sure the fit is there.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

Russo said yesterday that a trade involvng either Galchenyuk or Pacioretty almost happened at the trade deadline. Wild said no, not sure what the details were.

 

[57special]

Edmonton is the one team that really needs Brodin and Niederreiter/Coyle.

EDM needs a lot of things on the ice, but what they really need is decent management. They have a GREAT player, and another really good one, and they are going to waste them if they don't get their shit together. Brodin and Coyle/Nino might help some, but they are no cure for the disease that ails them.

 

[57special]

I know last year the rumour was of Gaclchenyuk for Brodin with MB wanting a piece more and it didn't come through. With that basis, you add Coyle, and then it's way too much. So what would we have to add:

Galchenyuk+? vs Brodin-Coyle

Not a chance, unless the + is your 1st.

 

[Bazeek]

Russo said yesterday that a trade involvng either Galchenyuk or Pacioretty almost happened at the trade deadline. Wild said no, not sure what the details were.

I assume it involved a 1st and, if it did, that was probably the right call. That's not a commentary on the value of either player, it's a commentary on the state of the Wild's prospect pipeline.

 

[57special]

I get your point... But IMO this is exactly the kind of player you're looking to add to your roster.

A soft wing player who doesn't play any D?

 

[57special]

I'd be interested in Galchenyuk. Not going to pay a premium to acquire though. Coyle+something.

Some Wild fans accuse Coyle of being soft, or at least not being as tough as he could be. Wait till they get a load of Galchenyuk....on top of which he is allergic to defense.

Not a player to be excited about acquiring, let alone paying Coyle( when his value is low after a bad year) and an add. Remember, Galch will make eat near another 2M of cap compared to Coyle, also.

 

[Bazeek]

Some Wild fans accuse Coyle of being soft, or at least not being as tough as he could be. Wait till they get a load of Galchenyuk....on top of which he is allergic to defense.

Not a player to be excited about acquiring, let alone paying Coyle( when his value is low after a bad year) and an add. Remember, Galch will make eat near another 2M of cap compared to Coyle, also.

I don't think that being weak defensively or physically "soft" should be disqualifiers for anyone we'd target. If he can skate, score, handle the puck and is around the "right" age, he should be considered.

(And yeah, I'm aware that wanting to trade Zucker makes his post kind of ironic )

 

[THall4]

Coyle + Draisaitl would make for a killer combo IMO

Not sure what the Oilers would have to give up for him alone.

1st in '19 ?

 

[Bazeek]

Coyle + Draisaitl would make for a killer combo IMO

Not sure what the Oilers would have to give up for him alone.

1st in '19 ?

Puljujarvi/Coyle swap?

 

[Benstheman]

The only thing i could see working in terms of value is :

Habs 1st + Galchenyuk for Coyle + Brodin.

I think value is favoring Minnesota a bit in that deal as Galchenyuk => Coyle and Habs 1st pick => Brodin (depending if the pick is top 5 or 6-7 OA) but I'm pretty sure Habs would be really interested in Brodin to play with Weber and Coyle if he can play 2nd line center, so maybe they needs to overpay to get what they need.

As for the Wild, i don't know what they are looking for, retool, rebuild...