Confirmed with Link: Brind'Amour named head coach

Joe McGrath

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It’s interesting that basically no one even acknowledges that Faulk was one of the captains. I’m assuming he’s on the top of the trade block.

I think the way Peters handled the captaincy illustrated his disconnect with the players, more than it actually had an effect on the leadership in the room. And Francis's inaction regarding Darling did the same for him. IMO, the team felt that the HC and GM didn't care, so why would they?

I thought a lot of guys mailed it in from about mid-season because there was no accountability at any level of the organization.

As for Faulk, specifically, I don't view him as captain material in any way, shape, or form. The fact that Peters did probably also led to the players tuning him out (i.e. since he tuned them out first).
 

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It’s interesting that basically no one even acknowledges that Faulk was one of the captains. I’m assuming he’s on the top of the trade block.

What's interesting to me is that Williams seemed completely disinterested in the captaincy last season, pretty sure outright said he didn't want it, then comes out now and says he was "surprised" by the decision and he would love to be a part of Rod's leadership group. Was all of that a figment of my imagination?

This line was hilarious:

If we had 20 of him, we'd be slow, right? But we would win,” Brind'Amour said. “I can't say enough good things about him. I guess maybe I have to watch it now that I'm the coach and you can't have favorites. But he's one of my favorites.”
 

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I’ve heard lots of stories about guys from various places and I’ve never heard one that would draw the conclusion that Faulk is a leader in the Canes group. That was the biggest head-scratcher for me. It was such a bad choice that the Canes might have burnt that bridge. Letting someone fail in a leadership role that they didn’t warrant is hard for morale.
 

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What's interesting to me is that Williams seemed completely disinterested in the captaincy last season, pretty sure outright said he didn't want it, then comes out now and says he was "surprised" by the decision and he would love to be a part of Rod's leadership group. Was all of that a figment of my imagination?

This line was hilarious:

He had a couple of quotes to that effect, but at the time I thought they felt more like polite deferrals. Walking in the door and saying “I should be captain” would have been graceless, so naturally the better bet was to say he hadn’t been thinking about it.

The co-captains decision remains one of the most head-scratching weird things I’ve seen from this organization.
 

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For what it's worth, Nathan Gerbe liked that tweet. A guy that's not even part of the team anymore is excited about Brindamour as a coach.

It does lead credence to the idea that many were calling for him to take a head coaching job.

Nathan Gerbe also likes Jeff Skinner's girlfriend bikini pics on Insta.
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This was one gem in this topic that provided a break from the heated discussion/arguments.
 
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these kind of fluff pieces are essential decock.

hope rod does great, but it feels a lot like they're doubling down on gumption. they hired a personality manager instead of a coach.

I want him to succeed, but I'm with you on this. They hired the hardest working player ever to tell the guys to play harder. Genius. I feel like they hired the guy that can eat anything and not gain a pound to tell a room of fat people how to be thin.
 

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He had a couple of quotes to that effect, but at the time I thought they felt more like polite deferrals. Walking in the door and saying “I should be captain” would have been graceless, so naturally the better bet was to say he hadn’t been thinking about it.

The co-captains decision remains one of the most head-scratching weird things I’ve seen from this organization.

I got the same impression, but it feels like now everyone (himself an itsy bit) is acting like it was some huge snub. Obviously none of us know the dynamic behind closed doors, I just found the "about face" he's made interesting.
 

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With knowing the kind of guy Brindy is, I wonder what this means for a couple or three players that have (in the past anyway) been looked at as core players, but maybe Brindy is fed up with their work ethic. Maybe we'll see an active GM with trades this summer.

I was initially worried about that dynamic, but have come around to the idea that Skinner might actually benefit with this change. By all accounts, Skinner trains as hard if not harder than everyone off the ice, which Rod likely respects, so I'm hopeful he can light a fire under his ass to carry that onto the ice every night.
 

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I wonder if one of the big accountability complaints from Rod was Peters continuing to give Darling the net even though Cam was outplaying him by a lot early in the season.

People have bad years. 3.18 and .888 sucks, but it can happen. What makes no sense is how you can play that bad, and still end up with 40 starts.
 

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I was initially worried about that dynamic, but have come around to the idea that Skinner might actually benefit with this change. By all accounts, Skinner trains as hard if not harder than everyone off the ice, which Rod likely respects, so I'm hopeful he can light a fire under his ass to carry that onto the ice every night.
It makes me wonder about guys like Faulk. Remember that he made some comment about trying to lose some weight this offseason, makes me wonder what Rod would have been thinking about a guy who's supposed to be a captain showing up and playing the entire season out of shape. See also: Scott "Barbecue" Darling.
 

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I wonder if one of the big accountability complaints from Rod was Peters continuing to give Darling the net even though Cam was outplaying him by a lot early in the season.

People have bad years. 3.18 and .888 sucks, but it can happen. What makes no sense is how you can play that bad, and still end up with 40 starts.

Yes, Darling would be the poster-boy for someone who didn't "earn it" last season...and yes, looking at his stats and his corresponding number of starts is ugly.

That being said, they they did pivot from him and gave Cam the crease somewhere around the mid-point of the season...should the move have been made sooner? Maybe...but typically you don't trade for a guy to be the starter, pay him to be the starter, and then give up on him quickly.

Everyone wanted Darling to find his game...RF and BP chose to give him more starts in spite of his poor performance...it was somewhat understandable.

My point here is that saying guys will have to earn it going forward sounds great now...it's easy to say it...but the Darling situation was trickier than that IMO.

This board would've gone into full rage mode if they took away the crease from Darling in the early season...my recollection is that most here still thought Darling was playing well at that time...many comments about what a big improvement he was over Ward...and prefacing roster thoughts with "now that goal-tending is fixed"...
 

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Heated arguments?

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Yeah man. There was a meltdown early in this topic and people were arguing. Heated stuff for HFBoard standards, and particularly when people were bickering over this team relocating. It is understandable that the hiring of our new head coach and GM would cause a negative reaction though.

Personally I don't care for Don Wadell as our GM, and I think the search for a GM wasn't serious on TD's part with his low balling salaries. I'm willing to give Brind'Amour a chance though as head coach. I'm just happy we have the #2 pick in this summer's draft; otherwise I would be a lot more cynical about this team in general cause I'm tired of the same old story with this organization. Hopefully they can find a starting goalie that is worth a damn. Maybe if we're lucky, a number 1 centerman too.
 

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Yes, Darling would be the poster-boy for someone who didn't "earn it" last season...and yes, looking at his stats and his corresponding number of starts is ugly.

That being said, they they did pivot from him and gave Cam the crease somewhere around the mid-point of the season...should the move have been made sooner? Maybe...but typically you don't trade for a guy to be the starter, pay him to be the starter, and then give up on him quickly.

Everyone wanted Darling to find his game...RF and BP chose to give him more starts in spite of his poor performance...it was somewhat understandable.

My point here is that saying guys will have to earn it going forward sounds great now...it's easy to say it...but the Darling situation was trickier than that IMO.

This board would've gone into full rage mode if they took away the crease from Darling in the early season...my recollection is that most here still thought Darling was playing well at that time...many comments about what a big improvement he was over Ward...and prefacing roster thoughts with "now that goal-tending is fixed"...

I seem to recall the warning bells about fitness as soon as he reported, and his first few games confirming to many that there was cause for alarm. He was certainly never the answer we expected.

Anyway, the difference this session is that he's coming off a sub-.900 season. He's a reclamation project at best now, so it's a different dynamic.
 

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Yes, Darling would be the poster-boy for someone who didn't "earn it" last season...and yes, looking at his stats and his corresponding number of starts is ugly.

That being said, they they did pivot from him and gave Cam the crease somewhere around the mid-point of the season...should the move have been made sooner? Maybe...but typically you don't trade for a guy to be the starter, pay him to be the starter, and then give up on him quickly.

Everyone wanted Darling to find his game...RF and BP chose to give him more starts in spite of his poor performance...it was somewhat understandable.

My point here is that saying guys will have to earn it going forward sounds great now...it's easy to say it...but the Darling situation was trickier than that IMO.

This board would've gone into full rage mode if they took away the crease from Darling in the early season...my recollection is that most here still thought Darling was playing well at that time...many comments about what a big improvement he was over Ward...and prefacing roster thoughts with "now that goal-tending is fixed"...

I think early in the season most were giving him the benefit of the doubt despite the fact that he looked like balls on opening night.

I remember personally saying in either late October or early November saying this guy looks like shit, and maybe they should be going 50/50 with he and Cam.
 

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