Rumor: Bo Horvat All Purpose Thread (Part 1)

[BoHorvat 53]

If the Bruins were to get him, Carlo seems like the logical main piece going back. Carlo+Smith(for cap, Bruins can retain a bit if needed)+3rd for Horvat. B's can throw in another prospect if needed. Carlo+a 1st or Lysell would be an overpayment.

What is an overpayment or what isn't will be determined by the market, depending on what other teams are willing to offer. Based off of everything we've heard, Horvat will fetch a nice package, and if we're not getting a 1st round pick in return there is really no discussion to be had - we need futures more than anything.

 

[Schemp]

Love to have him in Tempe in free agency, but the chances are between slim and no way you cheap (censored)!

 

[cbjthrowaway]

There's no new information though... It's just rehashing the same nonsense.

buddy, we're on hfboards

it's all nonsense and it's all getting rehashed all the time

 

[Canucks LB]

Horvat has been really, really good and if he wasn't a pending ufa his trade value would be pretty high, but in my opinion Pettersson has pretty clearly been the best Canuck player this season. Horvat is much better on faceoffs and has had a great early season as a power play sniper, but Pettersson has had the better all-round game.

Imo some fans are assessing the likely return for Horvat as if this were 30 years ago with no salary cap and no free agency. The Canucks aren't getting Bowram (let alone Byram +) even up for Horvat, extended or not.

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Petey stepped up since the post

 

[wintersej]

It's fair value for an extended Horvat. Horvat is being underrated at this point. Also, keep in mind the Bruin's "1st" is probably going to be in the 29-32 range so it's really close to a high second.

Which is basically a 3rd

 

[Wandering Cynic]

It would probably be something like this that will get it done for Horvat.

Hows Newhook looked lately? Cant say ive kept up on his progress and his number are not quite popping out.

Tyson Jost 2.0

 

[Azrael89]

I don’t see how the Avs could afford Horvat. They currently lack trade capital and cap space. He’d be perfect though.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Tyson Jost 2.0

Yeah, pass. Obviously not getting Byram though which sucks.

 

[Wandering Cynic]

Columbus- Would be a good fit as the team has tons of prospects and it fills a need at centre.

Colorado- The Avs won't give up anything valuable, and no, Newhook is not valuable. Not a great fit.

Detroit- They seem to be pretty good at centre going forward and should just wait it out. Not a great fit.

Boston- Excellent fit. Will be a team likely looking to make an all-in move as this may be the last year with this core. Also, Horvat is a decent Bergeron replacement once he retires.

Edmonton- Lol. Seems like it would work based on the fact that Broberg seems like a typical Canucks defenseman (low IQ, left-handed, liability in the defensive zone). He would likely be part of the Horvat return. Meh fit.

 

[Bgav]

If the Bruins were to get him, Carlo seems like the logical main piece going back. Carlo+Smith(for cap, Bruins can retain a bit if needed)+3rd for Horvat. B's can throw in another prospect if needed. Carlo+a 1st or Lysell would be an overpayment.

Lmao

 

[UrbanImpact]

Horvat would be a ridiculous addition to any contender that adds him for the playoff push. He is clutch when the games get big.
4 pts as a rookie in 6 playoff games vs CGY
2020 playoffs he had 10 goals in 17 playoff games and was leading the NHL in playoff goals until the Canucks got eliminated.
In Junior he was OHL Playoff MVP for London.

 

[KrugAvoy]

If the Bruins are trading a prospect they are probably moving Lohrei before Lysell.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Columbus- Would be a good fit as the team has tons of prospects and it fills a need at centre.

Colorado- The Avs won't give up anything valuable, and no, Newhook is not valuable. Not a great fit.

Detroit- They seem to be pretty good at centre going forward and should just wait it out. Not a great fit.

Boston- Excellent fit. Will be a team likely looking to make an all-in move as this may be the last year with this core. Also, Horvat is a decent Bergeron replacement once he retires.

Edmonton- Lol. Seems like it would work based on the fact that Broberg seems like a typical Canucks defenseman (low IQ, left-handed, liability in the defensive zone). He would likely be part of the Horvat return. Meh fit.

I don't think Columbus will go after Horvat at all unless they are close to the playoffs and needed that Duchene like boost.

 

[MasMejor]

I don't think Columbus will go after Horvat at all unless they are close to the playoffs and needed that Duchene like boost.

Or if they can work out an extension beforehand.

 

[Wandering Cynic]

I don't think Columbus will go after Horvat at all unless they are close to the playoffs and needed that Duchene like boost.

I don't think any of those five teams will add Horvat unless if an extension is already in place (except maybe Colorado). So I'm factoring that in as well.

 

[Hookslide]

Yea try closer to Carlo, Lysell and a 1st

Yeah that will happen ,when hell freezes over he is not worth it..........

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Or if they can work out an extension beforehand.

Then they can just sign him in the offseason. I just don't see it unless they turn their season around drastically. Buyers aren't teams that far down the standings and why should Horvat want to extend with a bad team at this age and not explore UFA and check it out?

 

[BCNate]

What is the nuts and bolts of this deal , that the Bruins should not be a part of ?

I'd look for Lysell, 1st, Zboril as a framework.

We get younger, faster, cheaper, add a quality draft pick, and defensive depth. Doesn't address the D as much as I'd hope, but we aren't going to solve all of our issues in 1 deal. I think Mike Reilly would probably be in the deal as well, and the Canucks would have to retain 50% (the cost of those two parts is not reflected above). Deal is also with an agreed upon extension in place.

I think the Canucks will look for a top prospect, 1st, young NHL player in return for Horvat, which this deal with cover.

 

[Hookslide]

I'd look for Lysell, 1st, Zboril as a framework.

We get younger, faster, cheaper, add a quality draft pick, and defensive depth. Doesn't address the D as much as I'd hope, but we aren't going to solve all of our issues in 1 deal. I think Mike Reilly would probably be in the deal as well, and the Canucks would have to retain 50% (the cost of those two parts is not reflected above). Deal is also with an agreed upon extension in place.

I think the Canucks will look for a top prospect, 1st, young NHL player in return for Horvat, which this deal with cover.

I think the Bruins should stay far away from this type of deal, I would rather see them get some D help......They can go after Horvat off season and then I am not sure he is worth it with the contract that he will be looking for especially with Pasta not signed yet.....

 

[GirardSpinorama]

I think the Bruins should stay far away from this type of deal, I would rather see them get some D help......They can go after Horvat off season and then I am not sure he is worth it with the contract that he will be looking for especially with Pasta not signed yet.....

Pasternak should be resigned before Bruins commit money to anyone else IMO.

 

[Hookslide]

Pasternak should be resigned before Bruins commit money to anyone else IMO.

I have been saying that............You are right on

 

[Boondock]

If the Bruins were to get him, Carlo seems like the logical main piece going back. Carlo+Smith(for cap, Bruins can retain a bit if needed)+3rd for Horvat. B's can throw in another prospect if needed. Carlo+a 1st or Lysell would be an overpayment.

If the Bruins are trading a prospect they are probably moving Lohrei before Lysell.

Lohrei is unsigned and not the quality of prospect Lysell is. I'm sure he would be available before Lysell

 

[MasMejor]

Then they can just sign him in the offseason. I just don't see it unless they turn their season around drastically. Buyers aren't teams that far down the standings and why should Horvat want to extend with a bad team at this age and not explore UFA and check it out?

Fair, but you run the risk of other teams swooping in with a better offer. If he's willing to sign in Columbus now, why not take the sure thing? Also not all top FA's sign with contenders. Some players go to teams where they feel they can make their mark. CBJ have some good players and good young prospects, future is bright for them.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Fair, but you run the risk of other teams swooping in with a better offer. If he's willing to sign in Columbus now, why not take the sure thing? Also not all top FA's sign with contenders. Some players go to teams where they feel they can make their mark. CBJ have some good players and good young prospects, future is bright for them.

Top FA can go to bad teams but they usually go during the off-season when everyone has a 0-0 record. Don't see why Horvat would sign an extension with Columbus in-season though. Its a bit risky from his perspective.

 

[McHelpus]

As a oilers fan, even if we somehow got him we would just throw him in the top 6 and start complaining about bottom 6 depth. He won't solve any of our problems...