Marotte Marauder
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Blackhawks raise season ticket prices
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The only concern i would have with this Business idea is empty seats ...(Imagine going to a game being on company time or else they won't ) Normally when you speak corporate you think lowers or 200s never 300s ...
Two things worth pointing out:
1/ The lowering of corporate taxes in 2018 comes with a cost. Corporations can no longer deduct ticket costs of sporting events. Previously they were able to deduct 50% of the cost.
2/ The blackhawks are selling/dumping 'last minute' tickets to games now for half the price of what the existing sth's paid. Literally biting the hand that feeds them.
So yeah there is going to be a mass exodus. Expect to see the lower bowl looking more and more like Detroit going forward. Retention of the 300 level will be better but the exodus will be felt there as well I would bet.
You really have to be quite the idiot to buy tickets from an organization that will sell the seat next to you for half the price come game time. McDonough must believe hawk fans are REALLY stupid. And Rocky must be asleep at the wheel to let him undercut the fan base to this extent.
1/ The lowering of corporate taxes in 2018 comes with a cost. Corporations can no longer deduct ticket costs of sporting events. Previously they were able to deduct 50% of the cost.
2/ The blackhawks are selling/dumping 'last minute' tickets to games now for half the price of what the existing sth's paid. Literally biting the hand that feeds them.
So yeah there is going to be a mass exodus. Expect to see the lower bowl looking more and more like Detroit going forward. Retention of the 300 level will be better but the exodus will be felt there as well I would bet.
You really have to be quite the idiot to buy tickets from an organization that will sell the seat next to you for half the price come game time. McDonough must believe hawk fans are REALLY stupid. And Rocky must be asleep at the wheel to let him undercut the fan base to this extent.
I’m not positive, but I believe the change applies only to college sports, and the deductibility of the donation required to be eligible to purchase season tickets.
I am not an accountant so maybe there is loop hole but if you read this it seems pretty clear.
The party’s over! Businesses can’t write off entertainment expenses under new tax law
Your article certainly confirms what you said. I had seen this GOP tax plan takes aim at NCAA season-ticket deduction, publicly financed stadiums
BK
"Goalie Apologist"
One would like to think that they have built enough of a fan base andamassed enough goodwill from the cups and success of the prior 8-9 years that it won't go back to the dark ages of the place on many nights being about a third full, but I sense the love affair has ended probably after game 4 in Nashville ended, as ratings started going down even last year and I have been getting emails a day or two before home games about limited tickets available which I don't recall getting often the prior 8-9 years.
RayP
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We shouldn't have to worry about going back to something similar to the dark ages....
What does scare the hell out of me is us being stuck in mediocrity and a bubble playoff team at best throughout the remainder of Toews' contract.
Blackhawks
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Not in the 100 level. It is a bloodbath of STH stepping on each others head to sell tickets at a lower price. I am one of them. And then you have the Blackhawks coming in with half price tickets. One ugly scene.
BK
"Goalie Apologist"
My tickets are in the 100 level. We have a solid base of people who buy our season tickets that we do not use. Again we made a profit this year. Not as good as past years but there is money to be made.
One thing to note is that we sold most of our tickets early in the season.
BK
"Goalie Apologist"
The money just rolls into next year and we always assume we will not see a dime back. It would foolish to think any other way.
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On weeknights you can usually find 300s for $30-40 after fees if you wait until a few hours before game time.
No Fun Shogun
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Given how deep the season ticket wait list allegedly is supposed to be, I'm sure that they're got room for the fans that are deciding to ditch season tickets (and of those saying that they are, when decision time actually comes I'd anticipate that more than a few just decide to bit the bullet for "one last season" to see what happens).
Even with anger at where we're at now, the team still built up a huge amount of good will and public demand from the sovereignty years, so I think they they'll still reliably sell out. That being said, they are getting pretty close to toeing the line for what might be acceptable. Or heck, they might even spin a drop in season tickets as a plant to get more single season tickets in circulation if push really came to shove and they'd sell out that way, too.
Pressure's on, though.
Even with anger at where we're at now, the team still built up a huge amount of good will and public demand from the sovereignty years, so I think they they'll still reliably sell out. That being said, they are getting pretty close to toeing the line for what might be acceptable. Or heck, they might even spin a drop in season tickets as a plant to get more single season tickets in circulation if push really came to shove and they'd sell out that way, too.
Pressure's on, though.
Well played. You got out early. Check out stub hub for the before commission prices now. Sold 4 tics for the Hurricane game and took a $300 loss and was grateful to get rid of them. More pain is coming once they are mathematically eliminated.
Hey all the power to you for getting out early. I would bet the people you sold your tics to will think twice next year. Especially if they know the blackhawks will be dumping the non renewed tickets next to you for half the price.
BK
"Goalie Apologist"
We don’t use stubhub and others. Fees are not worth it. Just have an established groups of people who buy when we don’t use them.
The people who we sell to are not the “the team is struggling so we won’t go” types. We don’t even sell to non hawks fans.
The people who we sell to are not the “the team is struggling so we won’t go” types. We don’t even sell to non hawks fans.
Yeah exactly.
If you are making profit on your season tickets, you know a whole bunch of suckers, and are ripping people off.... You can regularly find 100 level tickets below face value. Just gotta buy them a few hours before game time.
BK
"Goalie Apologist"
Like I said, we sold them early. Basically we send out a list of available games and people bought them in October/November.
Good for you. I would say you are in the minority, and I wouldn't count on that continuing. Of the 7-8 season ticket holders I know, every single one of them lost money selling games they couldn't attend. Hell, some couldn't give them away.
The secondary market is flooded with sub-face value tickets. Take a look at Stubhub on game day.
The secondary market is flooded with sub-face value tickets. Take a look at Stubhub on game day.
just ain't happening. The wait list was always an illusion. Hope McDonough gets his ass kicked but that ain't happening either...
ColdSteel2
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Wait lists are a funny thing. The Cubs wait list was said to be 10+ years long. Then they started sucking and everyone who was on it got offered tickets. As long as the team doesn’t charge you to get on it, throw your hat it. And if you cancel your tickets, do the same, it’ll come back around.
