Atd#7 Minor League Draft

MXD

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he was among 6 on our shortlist for third or fourth line left winger

the little guy was deemed not defensive enough for third line duty (Mondou fit the bill all around, was a pretty easy choice for us; especially getting Greg Sheppard at the same time, a guy who could move up to third-line left wing for prolific clutch playoff two-way play)

I agree that Hextall should have gone earlier (but so should have Mondou, Krusher and Sheppard)

I've never been a big fan of Krusher, but I agree that he deserved a roster spot in this MLD. That's a bit of a lineup play... We already had Prystai and Murdoch on our 3rd line... And I considering the 4th line we have, Krusher just wouldn't fit there.

Hex could have been a good top-line support player, and I think it was his potential for this draft. Considering we have some issues on our Top-6 -- longevity, inconsistency, and high peak value but short peak (but most people does have thoses issues in MLD with top line players...) our coach CAN make him play on a top line as a support player.
 

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Okay, we have one of our two picks...Vancouver takes Tony Tanti.

VanI, skip our other pick for now, we need more time.
 
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Alright, I believe it's now my turn (as mullin was skipped last round).

The Bulldogs are proud to select LW/RW Dave Trottier and G Johnny Mowers.

Trottier was a rough and tumble competitor, sometimes stepping across the line into dirty play. In addition to his rough play though, he was a consistent scorer, topping out at 4th in league goal scoring. He also provides flexibility as our spare, as he was capable of playing both wings.

Mowers only had a handful of NHL seasons, but he had by far the most dominant season of any remaining goaltender, winning the Vezina and a First Team All Star selection in 1943. More importantly, he was able to carry the Red Wings to the Stanley Cup, recording shutouts in the final two games of the finals. In the event that our third goalie has to play on a team like this, Mowers has the biggest to carry our team at this point. It should also be considered that he lost two seasons to the War.
 

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The Bulldogs are proud to select G Johnny Mowers.

Mowers only had a handful of NHL seasons, but he had by far the most dominant season of any remaining goaltender, winning the Vezina and a First Team All Star selection in 1943. More importantly, he was able to carry the Red Wings to the Stanley Cup, recording shutouts in the final two games of the finals. In the event that our third goalie has to play on a team like this, Mowers has the biggest to carry our team at this point. It should also be considered that he lost two seasons to the War.

He was also selected with the 646th pick in the main draft.
 

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He was also selected with the 646th pick in the main draft.

Oops, I guess my search failed me. Back to the drawing board, he was the last goalie on my list.

The Bulldogs select G Bill Beveridge. He was a good goalie who ended up getting stuck on some bad teams, such as the Senators and the Maroons. Despite that, he still managed to post respectable numbers, often carrying his teams.
 
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Come on! Some of you still have to do this!

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Two things for each of us to do Friday​

(1) Take a moment to look over the list of drafted players and PM me a list of call-up players, your opinion as to which players (drafted by whatever teams) have no place in the minor leagues, ought to surely be in the main draft! :teach: Your list can be long or short, ideally one at every position (though there may not be that), but if more, then indicate order of priority in your voting.

(This is NOT an all-star list of best talents in the draft, but instead, most valuable to a topend team: call-up players. It's very doubtful that an offensive-oriented first line centre from this draft ought o be in the main draft but assuredly there are some role players, enforcers, penalty killers, powerplay specialists and/or one-dimensional exceptional talents who have a place among the very best 24-man squads. I think we have drafted one of the best hitters in the history of the game, one of the best coaching records in the NHL, one of the best backup goalie careers, and several solid fourth line candidates on any all-time team, and a few third defensive pairing options on any all-time team. Point them out, as far as you see.)

(2) And ensure that your roster page post shows updated powerplay and penalty kill units, a captain and two alternate captains.
 
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The Penticton Vees are pleased to select its last skater, Lyle Odelein, a blueliner who has played the powerplay for several seasons because of his good stickhandling ability, tying the Canadiens record for assists by a defenseman in a game with 5. He has 252 points in 1056 NHL games and yet he has played a more defensive role primarily, and, in fact, has been an enforcer for the first six seasons of his fourteen year career, is Top-30 in NHL history in PIMs. His best season all around was 1994 - coming off of a defensively-impressive run to the Stanley Cup finals the postseason before - he scored a hat trick, registered 11 goals, 40 points and 276 PIM that season. In 2000 he became the first captain in Bluejackets history and in the two years he played that role the veteran got 33 points and 207 PIM. In his last full season, ending 2004, he scored 16 points and got 88 PIM as a 37 year old.
 
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MXD

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The Syracuse Bulldogs are pleased to select the last skater of the draft -- who went in the ATD if I'm not wrong

Winger STAN JONATHAN

And the last player selected of the ATD/MLD #7

Goaltender RICK WAMSLEY
 
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VanIslander

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I've call-up team lists from pappyline, MXD, pitseleh, cottonking, murphy, HockeyOutsider, VanIslander, vancityluongo, GodBlessCanada, kruezer, spitfire, raleh, and wisent

13 of 16 g.m.s ... pretty good
 

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but... now is the time to finalize the captaincy and special teams.

Estevan and Springfield need captain, alternate captains and special teams.
Syracuse needs special teams.
Windsor need 2nd units for pp and pk.
 

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Winger STAN JONATHAN
Nice pick. I had outside hopes I could grab him as a free-agent but I had a feeling someone would steal him ... also have a feeling that Stan Jonathan and Pat Verbeek mated many years ago and the offspring was Jordin Tootoo and Sean Avery ...
 

MXD

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Nice pick. I had outside hopes I could grab him as a free-agent but I had a feeling someone would steal him ... also have a feeling that Stan Jonathan and Pat Verbeek mated many years ago and the offspring was Jordin Tootoo and Sean Avery ...

Avery is actually Jonathan's offspring... Verbeek's offspring is actually someone else whose name I'll keep shut, in case someone would like to draft him.
 

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Rounding off our team, a guy who along with good ol' Schultz will make you fear us.

Former Flame, and a kruezer favourite, Tim Hunter.
 

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Votes are being tallied up and the Call-up Team will be announced in the morning.

In the meantime, ensure that your team has its captain, two alternates, two pp and two pk units.

Then feel free to add to the UFA thread the names of players on your list that you didn't end up drafting.

And if, upon reflection, you want to change a player or two, then simply ADD/DROP on the UFA thread. Teams can add/drop until the playoffs, meaning, if a gap in your line-up is disagnosed, you could try to fill it to boost the team (especially if lower ranked after the regular season).

By the way, if shawnmullin doesn't show up soon, after missing three entire rounds and with 6 picks to make up, then the league will have to pick for him from the UFA list. He has another 24 hours. I've PM'd him once again.
 

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If Cam Ward can get picked because he won a cup, a better goalie can get picked who took his team to the finals.

G Ray Emery

2 seasons with save percantages of .902 and now .918

GAA of 2.82 and 2.47

Took a team to the Cup finals

Career winning percentage of .686

Cocky, will fight, winning attitude and isn't rattled
 

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Stealing without remorse from the free agent list (because I've had a big family thing going on that I won't get into...)

RW Russ Courtnell

297 goals, 744 points in 1029 NHL games (83 pts in 129 NHL playoff games). In all-star game (1994).
... As a rookie with Toronto, he scored 12 goals and 22 points in 69 games. Although his goal production was not as high as the Leafs had hoped for, his tremendous speed opened up opportunities, especially for his linemates.

In 1984, Courtnall also suited up for the Canadian Olympic team, which finished out of the medals at the Sarajevo Games. Upon returning, he rejoined the Maple Leafs. In 1985-86, Courtnall broke the 20-goal barrier, notching 22 to go along with 38 assists for 60 points. His offensive numbers improved the following year with 29 goals and 73 points, but he always seemed unable to please head coach John Brophy, who clearly preferred the big, rough-and-tumble type of players to that of Courtnall's speed and finesse.... In 64 games, Courtnall put up just 39 points with the Habs, but his lightning fast skating and breathtaking moves made him a fan favourite. Some said his style of play reminded them of Yvan Cournoyer of a generation before. Being more at ease with his new club, Courtnall saved his best performance for the playoffs, where the Canadiens advanced all the way to the Stanley Cup finals before losing to the Calgary Flames. In 21 post-season games, Courtnall contributed eight goals and 13 points.

Courtnall enjoyed another two-and-a-half years in Montreal before joining the Minnesota North Stars for the 1992-93 season. In 84 games, he managed a career-high 36 goals and 43 assists for 79 points. He followed that up with an 80-point season in the team's first year of play in Dallas. Late in the 1994-95 season, Courtnall was traded to the Vancouver Canucks where he teamed with his brother, Geoff, for 13 games that year.
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C Aaron Broten

515 points in 748 NHL games. (25 points in 34 NHL playoff games).

... a solid two-way forward who played over 700 games in the 80s and 90s. Comfortable at centre and left wing, he registered three 20-goal seasons and was effective on both specialty teams.... a top high school player in 1978-79 when he scored seven points in five games for the USA at the World Junior Championships... led the WCHA in goals, assists and points, was placed on the conference's first all-star team and named to the NCAA Championship all-tournament team. He capped off his dream season by playing his first two NHL games and skating for the U.S. at the World Championships.... enjoyed a solid rookie NHL season with 39 points in 58 games.... a versatile player... joined his brother Neal on the U.S. Canada Cup team that reached the semi-finals in 1984.... played for the U.S. at the World Championships in 1986 and 1987 as well as the 1987 Canada Cup. In 1987 and 1988, the talented forward was at his most productive with consecutive 26-goal seasons.

...more of a playmaker and checker for his new club (Minnesota) and was on hand in September when Minnesota ventured to Moscow as part of the Friendship Tour. Before the 1990-91 season commenced, he was claimed on waivers by the lowly Quebec Nordiques. Broten was unhappy on the sad sack Nords and was part of mid-season trade that saw him join teammates Michel Petit and Lucien Deblois in Toronto. The trio helped the Maple Leafs bounce back from a miserable start and play fairly competitive hockey in the second half of the season. Broten retired in 1992 after playing 25 games for the Winnipeg Jets.

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LW Kelly Miller

463 points in 1057 NHL games. (54 points in 119 NHL playoff games).


... a fine playmaker and checker who played nearly 1,000 NHL games in the 1980s and '90s. His quick hands made him a dangerous passer and a tough opponent on faceoffs.

...represented the U.S. at the 1982 and 1983 World Junior Championships and was named to the CCHA first all-star team after scoring 50 points as captain of the Spartans in 1984-85. Late that season, Miller joined the Rangers for five regular season and three playoff games before playing for Team USA at the World Championships.

In 1985-86, Miller scored 13 goals and played solid defence and helped the team reach the Prince of Wales Conference finals. The next year, he was traded to the Washington Capitals along with Mike Ridley for former 50-goal scorer Bob Carpenter. Miller was one of the Caps' best workers for many years. His creativity on offense and his willingness to stay with his man and backcheck helped the club reach the Stanley semi-finals in 1990 and the final in 1998. He was also the club's NHLPA representative and served as interim team captain twice.

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Atd#7 MINOR LEAGUE

List of Players Called Up to the Big League

Voting was clear with goaltending, defense and coaching, close with centres and left wing and tied at right wing. These men would likely be called up to be on the parent club (so congratulations! :clap:) but on the flip side their team's performance may be judged as a bit dampered by the loss (so the extra players will have to be dressed or else :help: is needed for the regular season via UFA as these eight guys will be unavailable until the playoffs). Welcome to the trials and tribulations of a minor league team.

The Call-Up List

Ken Hitchcock, coach
Cottonking's Omaha Icebreakers

Gerry McNeil, goaltender
pappyline's Whitby Dunlops

Rod Seiling, defense
Hockey Outsider and VanIslander's Penticton Vees

Joe Watson, defense
GBC and Murphy's Estevan Strippers

Tumba Johansson, centre
raleh & arrbez's Springfield Ice-o-topes

Dave Schultz, left wing
vancityluongo & kruezer's Vancouver Giants

Bill Goldsworthy, right wing (TIE)
spitfire11's Windsor Bulldogs

Frank Finnigan, right wing (TIE)
pitseleh's Quebec Bulldogs​

Honorable Mention:
(some games called up - no replacement players necessary)

Syracuse's Prystai (c), Anyang's Awrey (d), Springfield's Liapkin (d), Kocur (rw), and Palffy (rw), Estevan's Morrow (lw), Omaha's Granato (lw), Penticton's Hrudey (g), Henry (lw), and Martin (c), Whitby's Labine (rw) and Harmon (d), Quebec's Chapman (c) and McDonald (d), Windsor's Pederson (c), Vancouver's Lepine (c).
 

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The Penticton Vees are pleased to select, after much deliberation, its head coach Billy Reay, the definitive player's coach whose character is demonstrated by the photo below and the fact that - as a player himself in an earlier era - he started the practice of raising the hockey stick after scoring a goal. Read the bottom write-up on his coaching style.

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...making his NHL debut as coach of the Toronto Maple Leafs for a season and a half. His most important legacy at the Gardens was to have convinced veteran goaltender Johnny Bower to join the Blue and White.

After Toronto, Reay made stops in Bellville, Sault Ste. Marie, and Buffalo before settling into his spiritual home as head coach of the Chicago Blackhawks in 1963. For the 13 seasons that followed, he led his club to numerous first-place finishes... In 1976, Reay finally retired as one of the winningest coaches in NHL history with 598 victories to his credit.
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Billy Reay always knew how to press the right button.

When his Blackhawks were struggling, he resisted conventional dogmas. Many coaches would lean on players, schedule an extra practice or hold a meeting to establish a heightened degree of creative tension. But Reay, who respected the adults in his locker room, went the other way.

However, on numerous occasions when the Hawks were on a roll, Reay would assert his authority, usually without a word. He wasn't a screamer. He didn't have to be.

During one lengthy unbeaten streak, his men gathered in a Philadelphia hotel bar, oblivious to the curfew. Suddenly, well past Reay's bedtime, he calmly strode through the watering hole, from front door to back wall, just staring at his collection of All-Stars and future Hall of Famers. They didnt refer to him as "X-Reay" because he was a great after-dinner speaker.

Then he walked out. That was last call. They knew. The next morning's skate would not be about penalty-killing or about the upcoming opponent, but about guilt. The guys never wanted to disappoint Billy Reay because he never disappointed them.

Reay, 86, who died Thursday of liver cancer in Madison, Wis., was a players' coach before the term came into vogue, and he did it the old-fashioned way, without a roster of assistants, nutritionists and psychologists.

Reay worked in a simpler time, true, but to speculate that he could not motivate today's multimillionaires or cope with the ever-multiplying media is to diminish what made him tick-a love of the game he played at the NHL level and a passion for the coaching profession that brought him 516 victories, a franchise record not likely to be surpassed by any of those temps passing through Chicago's revolving door.

To the three or four regular reporters he encountered daily, Reay was a complete company man. He was neither a good sound bite nor a source of juicy scoops, but he never lied, not even to a young pipsqueak whose first real job was to cover hockey for the Tribune.

Reay didn't appreciate every headline or gratuitous wisecrack about those ties-23 in 1973-74-but yesterday's disagreement had a short shelf life. Reay, you see, was not just a company man. He was a man. That's why the free-wheeling Hawks listened after a last-place finish in 1968-69 on a yield of 246 goals.

Reay opened camp by preaching defense, and it didnt hurt having a fabulous rookie netminder like Tony Esposito on hand. The Hawks went from worst to first.

The next spring, the Hawks had a 2-0 lead in the Stanley Cup finals and a 2-0 lead in Game 7 at the Stadium. But another masked marvel, Montreal's Ken Dryden, would not allow defeat, nor would Henri Richard. That hurt Reay, but even without Bobby Hull, the Hawks went back to the finals two years later. In 1976, management unconscionably fired Reay just before Christmas with a note under his office door. He remained a member of the extended Hawks family, though, because he still cared, and because he never threw stones when he could have thrown boulders.

Reay wasn't one to polish apples or lick boots, either, and perhaps this is why he has been denied a place in hockey's Hall of Fame.

He wore flashy hats with those dapper suits. Otherwise, Reay shunned center stage. He answered his own phone. The show was out there, on the ice. And if one of his guys blew an assignment, he exercised selective amnesia when asked to name names
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Springfield is sad to see Tumba go. Luckily however, the offensive centre spot is one of the more easily replaceable positions in this draft, and a guy we had discussed earlier is still around. As his replacement, we select a young man who has quickly established himself as one of the best offensive players in the NHL, with over a PPG in both the regular season and playoffs and a career +70:

Jason Spezza
 

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The Estevan Strippers select in the expansion draft to replace Joe Watson:
Mario Marois

Defenceman Mario Marois was a fine playmaker with a hard shot from the point that also thrived by playing it rough in his own end. He suited up for over 950 games with five different clubs during a solid career.
 

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The Estevan Strippers select in the expansion draft to replace Joe Watson:
Mario Marois

Defenceman Mario Marois was a fine playmaker with a hard shot from the point that also thrived by playing it rough in his own end. He suited up for over 950 games with five different clubs during a solid career.

Already taken.
 

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