I like how the media was all over the Jets jocks and then Vegas pulls a Vegas in game 2. That team still gets disrespected imho.
Around the League '16-'17 Other Teams' Free Agent Frenzy
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SlimCharles
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I just want to see Ovechkin lift the cup and Vegas' run to end. That is all.
deeshamrock
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If Tavares isn't traded, if he hits the open market, he'll pick a team that is a contender. Also, he's not a #2 center, so it wouldn't be the Kings.
In a trade? For what they'd have to give up, it far too risky for a rental.
There will be trades to be made and Free Agents out there, but Luc and co , will continue to rebuild the farm, which is the best way to build a contender. Getting assets, multiple picks and have a deep pool. It took Hexy a few years but the Flyers now have the best farm system in the NHL. But I think the Kings have some assets that could be moved for players that could help them, just not the elite ones, they don't have the ammo to offer.
In a trade? For what they'd have to give up, it far too risky for a rental.
There will be trades to be made and Free Agents out there, but Luc and co , will continue to rebuild the farm, which is the best way to build a contender. Getting assets, multiple picks and have a deep pool. It took Hexy a few years but the Flyers now have the best farm system in the NHL. But I think the Kings have some assets that could be moved for players that could help them, just not the elite ones, they don't have the ammo to offer.
deeshamrock
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Jimmy Murphy ✔ @MurphysLaw74
Hearing lots of chatter that not only could #LouLamoriello be joining #Isles but two-time #StanleyCup winner and former #LAKings and #SJSharks GM Dean Lombardi could be joining fold too.
5:39 PM - May 13, 2018
It would be (from another NY Article) Papa Lou pres of Hockey Ops and DL the new GM.
Hearing lots of chatter that not only could #LouLamoriello be joining #Isles but two-time #StanleyCup winner and former #LAKings and #SJSharks GM Dean Lombardi could be joining fold too.
5:39 PM - May 13, 2018
It would be (from another NY Article) Papa Lou pres of Hockey Ops and DL the new GM.
Ziggy Stardust
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Kyle Clifford and Andy Andreoff for Anders Lee and Brock Nelson.
E4.
E4.
SettlementRichie10
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That’s one hell of a front office. Islanders will be contenders within a few years if they land those two.
DryIslandBartender
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Tavares isn’t coming to LA. You can’t have three guys making $10m a year on long term deals.
KingsFan7824
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I'm sure that's a dream of Lombardi's.
Lombardi drove the Kings into the ground as he lost touch, Lamoriello drove the Devils into the ground as he lost touch, and then got to draft Matthews. I guess if they can get anyone to take Ladd the way Ottawa took Phaneuf, they might have a shot.
Ziggy Stardust
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It's in here, but you have to listen to the song backwards to hear the subliminal message.
BigKing
Blake Out of Hell III: Back in to Hell
While his mistakes are brought up daily on this board, DL was the architect of the best moments of our hockey fandom.
He loves Lou. Would be awesome for Dean to be GM underneath him.
He loves Lou. Would be awesome for Dean to be GM underneath him.
johnjm22
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I would like to think the errors DL made during the latter stages of his tenure here have made him a better manager today.
Too often he let his emotions influence his descisions. As an executive you have to be cold, analytical, and sometimes callous with your moves. Easier said than done.
Too often he let his emotions influence his descisions. As an executive you have to be cold, analytical, and sometimes callous with your moves. Easier said than done.
ScoreZeGoals
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Lombardi's major problem at the end of the day is he is loyal to a fault. He has his guys, his type of player, and he doesn't change from that. He waits FAR too long to move on from players (if he ever does). He didn't in San Jose, he didn't in L.A. and he won't anywhere else.
I doubt DL ever changes. He's driven by that emotion and loyalty, wanting similar players who would jump in front of a car for their teammates. That mentality played a huge part of why this team won 10 of 11 playoff series in a 3 year span. It's also why DL found it impossible to stay on top. What's required to make those tough decisions isn't in his DNA.
Just curious of this mindset,
With the exception of Richards, what tough decisions did DL shy away from? Who should he have moved on from in the off season of 2014, 2015, 2016 ?
With the exception of Richards, what tough decisions did DL shy away from? Who should he have moved on from in the off season of 2014, 2015, 2016 ?
Ziggy Stardust
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Hung onto the likes of Stoll and Greene for too long, to the point they became obsolete. The Sekera and Lucic trades that were so shortsighted, when the team had so many holes. The Gaborik extension wasn't so wise, but thankfully Blake was able to finagle his way out of that contract. The team depth was so bad, the likes of Dwight King and Trevor Lewis were inserted into top six roles. Trading assets for 6 or so games of Ben Bishop didn't make any sense when they could have gotten the same results Bishop delivered if they just hung onto Budaj.
It'll be more challenging to list all of the good things he did after 2014.
It'll be more challenging to list all of the good things he did after 2014.
Jarret Stoll last season in LA was 2014-2015, the season AFTER they won the cup, that's hanging on to him too long?
Matt Greene's truly last season in LA was 2014-2015, played 3 games in 2015-2016 due to injury, and 26 in 2016-2017 due to injury....
The Sekera and Lucic trades have been argued to death, at the TIME of the deals, it made sense in what the team was doing, still contending.
Agree the Gaborik extension wasn't the best move at all...
Team depth was bad?? You do realize they played in the top six due to injuries, and trying to shake out of slumps etc, that and Sutter had a thing about Brown playing on the first line...
As far as Bishop, a washed up 2nd, a UFA backup, and a 7th round, that he turned around and flipped for a 4th round....yea....that was complete...nonsense...really??
I was seriously asking because hell my memory sucks, but if this is the best of the worst....I'm shocked, I expected much much worse the way some posters go on....
Ziggy Stardust
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Their cap situation constrained the team to great lengths, hence Dean's inability to re-sign the UFAs he brought on here. That was all Dean's doing.
You seem to like to make a lot of excuses. Care to list all of the good decisions he made post-2014?
No idea, shoot me a complete list, like I said, my memory is for the dog, that's why I truly asked,
And when is pointing out Stoll's last season, or Greene's last season an excuse? It sounds like you got your facts wrong on that one,
I agreed Gaborik's extension wasn't the best, but that's literally all you are coming up with Gaborik, Sekera deal, and Lucic deal, in three years....
Ziggy Stardust
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They were still paying Greene $2.5M while he was with the team. The games played thing is an excuse, and Stoll was paid over $3M to be one of the most expensive fourth line centers in the league.
And Greene was re-signed after 2014. Here's a list of all of the transactions Dean made after the second Cup win leading up to his dismissal.
Hockey Transactions Search Results
And Greene was re-signed after 2014. Here's a list of all of the transactions Dean made after the second Cup win leading up to his dismissal.
Hockey Transactions Search Results
Greene was on LITR, doesn't matter what they were paying him, I will take a look at the list
Ziggy Stardust
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I had completely forgotten Devin Setoguchi was also brought in to fill a top six role. Started the season that year on Kopitar's line. Good times.
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