Indy: All-Purpose Non-WWE Discussion Thread -- Part 2 [NJPW G1 Special in San Francisco July 7]

[Shoalzie]

Got the coffee on...excited to watch my first live New Japan action. Okada-Omega III and the Premier League is back in action...going to be a fun morning.

 

[SeidoN]

Got the coffee on...excited to watch my first live New Japan action. Okada-Omega III and the Premier League is back in action...going to be a fun morning.

 

[Shoalzie]

Okada-Omega is definitely the feature attraction...probably will start in 15 minutes or so. Next to last match is on now.

 

[SeidoN]

that was really good. step below their previous bouts but still excellent.

4.75 from me

 

[Shoalzie]

It was really good stuff but not 6 stars. The worst Okada-Omega match will still beat 99.9% of all other matches.

 

[GKJ]

The guy who wrote the recap for F4W says it's better, in his opinion. Don't know how highly he felt about the first two. It sounds like they just came out and started hitting a ton of big moves, which made sense. But that's also why I like waiting a few days before deciding things like that.

 

[SeidoN]

it was absolutely not better than 1 and 2

 

[Shoalzie]

Given they'd have half the time, it was definitely a match with less fat. Action per minute...it might've eclipsed the previous two there.

New Japan does such a great job storytelling with injuries from previous matches. The long-term story of Tanahashi's bicep has been so well done. With this tournament format and the short turnaround with matches...you can have a guy sell an injury from their previous match into the next match and it plays a part in the result.

 

[Kimi]

Okada > All. In cases you hadn't noticed

 

[Kimi]

The guy who wrote the recap for F4W says it's better, in his opinion. Don't know how highly he felt about the first two. It sounds like they just came out and started hitting a ton of big moves, which made sense. But that's also why I like waiting a few days before deciding things like that.

I think this was the best 30min match they could have, given the fact that they've already had the first two and it was the G1 Block final.


As for ranking them, it's arguing over which of the top three matches of the year you like the most. Which is a bit silly when all three matches are the same two guys in the same series of matches.

 

[Shoalzie]

This match wasn't a title match like the other two but definitely had something at stake. It was far from a predictable match...either guy could've won even though the injury was a big factor.

With the finals coming up...I honestly see this one as a toss-up. Are there other big matches scheduled for Sunday?

(I'm being vague for a reason...assuming we're doing no spoilers?)

 

[M.C.G. 31]

I wonder how bad Naito's shoulder is and if it leads to Omega somehow pulling off a second consecutive win. I doubt it, but that'd be something.

Omega/Okada, all three of them, are the three best matches of the entire year though.

 

[Kimi]

This match wasn't a title match like the other two but definitely had something at stake. It was far from a predictable match...either guy could've won even though the injury was a big factor.

With the finals coming up...I honestly see this one as a toss-up. Are there other big matches scheduled for Sunday?

(I'm being vague for a reason...assuming we're doing no spoilers?)

I'm not actually sure what the spoiler rules are for this thread. I think it's anything goes except TV-taping spoilers? I think if anyone wanted to avoid NJPW spoilers they'd just avoid this thread, it's not like we've got a bunch of threads like we have for WWE or anything.


As for matches tomorrow, the only two announced are the the Junior and Heavyweight tag title matches.

 

[Disclose]

insane match...
theyre gonna kill each other if the fight again. way to step it up.
would love the repeat for Omega. im fine whoever wins tomorrow....

 

[dahrougem2]

I would love nothing more than for Omega to win tomorrow. He NEEDS to be the guy to take the title off of Okada, not Naito. If NJPW has any intentions of branching into the U.S., Omega is the guy to do it with.

 

[Kimi]

I would love nothing more than for Omega to win tomorrow. He NEEDS to be the guy to take the title off of Okada, not Naito. If NJPW has any intentions of branching into the U.S., Omega is the guy to do it with.

Jinder.

 

[GKJ]

Naito wins

 

[Isi]

if they do omega/ibushi at wk, and i'm not sure they will or that it's the best idea, it has to be for the ic imo, which would allow tanahashi to bloody rest his body.

get the damn surgery tana and this is on.

 

[The Burdened]

I would love nothing more than for Omega to win tomorrow. He NEEDS to be the guy to take the title off of Okada, not Naito. If NJPW has any intentions of branching into the U.S., Omega is the guy to do it with.

nah m8 don't forget what the J in NJPW stands for. Naito is their most popular native star ATM and is drawing.

They have to tend to home turf first and foremost. 2500 a pop for G1 USA is great, but how many of those 2500 are gonna buy tickets to the Dome? It's not like they are rapidly expanding into the US, either, where they have plans to run monthly shows next year.

It would be ill advised book their home territory to try and appease Western fans when they can't even break 30 k in the Dome. Once that Dome number goes up, then fair game. Maybe it will this year with Naito/Okada & Ibushi/Omega.

tbh Omega's time to be HW Champion has come and gone for now. His time was Dominion, and they opted to give him G1 USA tournament and made up a championship for him instead. I think Omega got the short end of the stick, but they didn't want him to interrupt Okada's record reign.

 

[GKJ]

I can't see Tanahashi missing the Tokyo Dome, either. But maybe after that he'll get surgery because then he could be back for G1.

I think they don't want Omega to be the champion unless he commits to New Japan long-term. For all his talk, the door has been kept open.

 

[Shoalzie]

A few hours behind but that finish was great. I had to believe Naito was going to win but they had me in suspense throughout. Such a great crowd...Naito is super over right now.

 

[Kimi]

Shibata \o/

 

[M.C.G. 31]

Shibata <3333

 

[M.C.G. 31]

 

[Shoalzie]

When did Shibata show up? Was that during the intermission? I saw the video after the fact. It's good to see him.