Value of: Adam Larsson to The Toronto Maple Leafs (Atlantic Division)?

[Hunter368]

No reason why the Oilers would trade him.....that would be silly.

 

[Liferleafer]

No reason why the Oilers would trade him.....that would be silly.

Agreed, they need more defense...trading Larsson is counter productive. They will also never come close to recooping what they paid for him, and Larsson is a really good player, not like they have a need to cut losses on him.

 

[rockinghockey]

Being a right shot also adds value to hi
Good right shot dmen are hard to get

 

[TFHockey]

Edmonton has no one who can take Larssons minutes. We are too thin at D to deal a guy like him away.

 

[Cogburn]

This might be my favourite thread.

That being said, nothing Toronto or it's fans would surrender gets Larsson. He wasn't the problem with the Oilers last year, in fact I'd say he made them more competitive. Conversely, Edmonton won't get what they paid for him, and if he was moved Edmonton would likely be looking to recoup a lot of their investment.

 

[EDMOILERS9729]

Agreed, they need more defense...trading Larsson is counter productive. They will also never come close to recooping what they paid for him, and Larsson is a really good player, not like they have a need to cut losses on him.

A leafs fan thats sensible?? Omg its the end of the world guys. Seriously though, thanks for not offering Kappy + Johnsson + 1st.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Andreas Johnson, 25th overall pick and a conditional 1st if the Leafs make the playoffs next season.

Not even in the ballpark.

 

[EP40 AKA Lil Wayne]

Agreed, they need more defense...trading Larsson is counter productive. They will also never come close to recooping what they paid for him, and Larsson is a really good player, not like they have a need to cut losses on him.

Thought more fire power + deeper prospect pool was Oilers primary concern.

 

[shortfuze]

Not even in the ballpark.

So 2 1st round picks isn’t even in the ball park? High expectations. I get not liking the deal but what do you think you should get for him?

 

[Chet Manley]

So 2 1st round picks isn’t even in the ball park? High expectations. I get not liking the deal but what do you think you should get for him?

What are the odds that either of those magic beans turn into a player as good as Larrson? 10%? 5 years from now? Mid to late 1st round picks get you a rental from a team that has already given up on the season. Or a decent, near-ready prospect that a team has no room for.

 

[zar]

So 2 1st round picks isn’t even in the ball park? High expectations. I get not liking the deal but what do you think you should get for him?

We are not putting him on the table, we need him.. kind of like most TML fans say about Nylander in a recent thread. I would say the Oilers need Larsson way more than the Leafs need Nylander.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

So 2 1st round picks isn’t even in the ball park? High expectations. I get not liking the deal but what do you think you should get for him?

The only thing Edmonton should be trading Adam Larsson for is a better Adam Larsson. He’s signed long term at a bargain deal - we need him a lot more than we need magic beans.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Thought more fire power + deeper prospect pool was Oilers primary concern.

That, sure, but actual NHLers more. Prospects and magic beans are all well and good but Larsson is a good defensive #2 defenceman . Trading him for picks and maybes would be idiotic.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

wasn't he just named as one of the top defenders at the WHC?

zero chance he's traded

Leafs gonna need to trade a forward for another legit defensive d-man

 

[shortfuze]

The only thing Edmonton should be trading Adam Larsson for is a better Adam Larsson. He’s signed long term at a bargain deal - we need him a lot more than we need magic beans.

I never said they should. I was asking the poster what he thought was a good deal because getting 2 1st round picks and a prospect with a lot of upside is a lot to give up for a 3/4 defenceman.

 

[THall4]

Andy Greene was really good, but hasn't been in a few years. He actually had an impact on possession and whatnot. Larsson does not.

I don't know man.

Larsson has that same effect on his partner as Andy Greene had. Last season Nurse's game really took off once he was paired with Larsson, they played 25-28 minutes a night against top comp. then Larsson went down with a back injury and then the passing of his father and Nurse's game really dipped. Then, when Larsson returned fully healthy etc. Nurse's game (along with Larsson's) really improved yet again.

On an unrelated note - this is why I hesitant on the Oilers locking up Nurse for anything more the 4.5M...1) because he hasn't proven hes a top 3 guy outside of last year and 2) His game dipped while away from Larsson. I'm a huge supporter of Nurse, I think he McDavid and Draisaitl all should be Oilers for as long as they want to be....but Chiarelli needs to watch be cautious here

 

[THall4]

Thought more fire power + deeper prospect pool was Oilers primary concern.

Prospect pool is/will come..i trust PC and KG when it comes to drafting. They've done well in the past 3 drafts..not to mention signing UFA prospects like Hebig, Cagguilla, Benning...and trading for Marody. I certainly wouldn't want them to move our best RHD for prospects.

We need wing depth for sure, but again..not at Larsson's expense.

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[vanarchy]

"Let's trade one of our best dmen to fix our defensive problems"

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I never said they should. I was asking the poster what he thought was a good deal because getting 2 1st round picks and a prospect with a lot of upside is a lot to give up for a 3/4 defenceman.

Larsson is not a 3/4 defenceman, and whether you think a low first, a 3/4 C prospect and a CONDITIONAL first is a lot or not, it’s not enough and not something Edmonton should even consider.

Would you trade Rielly for 10th, Bear, and a conditional first?

 

[Captain Controversy]

Nylander + Morgan Reilly for Larsson and 10th pick.
Toronto can't be greasy and get larsson for nothing. He is stellar defensive D man.

 

[Hunter368]

Nylander + Morgan Reilly for Larsson and 10th pick.
Toronto can't be greasy and get larsson for nothing. He is stellar defensive D man.

What????

Not even a Leaf fan and that’s terrible for them.

 

[GOilers88]

Could you imagine if NHL GM's were anything like these forums? Not a single trade would ever be made because every deal is "lolzterrible", according to people here.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

What????

Not even a Leaf fan and that’s terrible for them.

And 25th, Johnsson, and a conditional-or-nothing first is... what, for Edmonton?

No one is making fair offers here.

Larsson isn’t available. If Toronto wants to pay ‘pry him out of my cold dead hands’ prices, they can offer up Nylander or pound sand. We gave up a much better player than that for him, and we flat out cannot move him.

 

[TFHockey]

Edmonton isn't going to constantly rebuild. If they make a trade it isn't for futures. Like posters stated above Larsson only gets traded for a better Larsson.
He remains our best option as a RHD. You know who is next in our depth chart as a natural Right Handed D? Matt Benning.

 

[Halla]

this isnt gonna happen. oilers would want Marner/Nylander to fill the hole at W left by Hall and Eberle

leafs are gonna be looking to upgrade their back end using 1st rd picks and prospects...unless a Doughty/EK/Subban type is available. thats the type of guy they need to land to move Marner/Nylander +