OT: 59th Obsequious Banter Thread: (Giroux + Simmonds + Couturier + Voracek + Patrick + Sanheim) ÷ Gudas

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  1. Lotusflower

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    The poster used those terms so I continued to use them to keep the thru way of the conversation on even ground.

    I agree that they are disparaging terms for people with valid grievances. Part of my post discussed how conflating those seeking a certain level equality with their most extreme factions deemphasized the importance of the very real major issues that make up the meat and potatoes so to speak of a much larger movement
     
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    I consider myself a conservative, but even I would have voted for Sanders over Trump. Both parties ran highly flawed candidates and from what it seems with leaking of debate questions to HRC during the Democratic primaries that the DNC didn't even give Sanders a fair shake when I am pretty sure he would have beaten Trump if he would have won the nomination
     
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  3. Hollywood Couturier

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    So, uh, guys, uh, Wawa or Sheetz?
     
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    Is that food? Because I am f***ing starving.
     
  5. Striiker

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    Oh ok, I see now. I think you misunderstand a bit, but that's my fault for being unclear.

    To clear up those posts, what I was talking about was being annoyed/worried about the spread of the really really crazy things that I gave examples of. The stuff that we both agree is basically harmless because nobody really takes it seriously. The reason I brought the topic up to start was because I thought the Boy Scouts did take it seriously and made this change because of those lunatics.

    I'm was NOT sitting here like "oh damn, I hate that the Boy Scouts are being more inclusive towards people outside my demographic!"

    I was thinking "oh **** are people actually starting to take the type of people who defend dogs gender rights seriously??????" because I don't think anyone other than the extreme "SJW's" would waste their time trying to fight against the Boy Scouts being all boys. I wasn't worried about normal PC culture spreading, I was specifically worried about the potential spreading PC extremists.

    This was because the twitter posts I initially read led me to believe that was the case, which was incorrect.

    Which I agree with and which is why I was so shocked when it sounded like they actually did achieve their goals in bullying an organization into making such a change. I want that extreme side to remain innocuous so that's one less distraction. I don't want that stupidity to spread.

    Does that make more sense?

    I didn't say extreme PC people and extreme anti-PC people are equal issues, I only said that both are examples of people going too far on both sides. Obviously one side is a bigger problem than the other.

    You explained why normal PC people act the way they do, but I already know that, which is why I said it feels like you think I'm arguing against you on every point you're bringing up, when that's not the case.

    Because the vast majority of those NFL players grew up poor, which seems to be what shaped their beliefs more than race did, and becoming wealthy doesn't change your upbringing.

    That's why I was talking about the difference between someone who grew up poor vs someone who grew up rich, regardless of race. If both of those people are black, I don't think the rich one will automatically have the same beliefs/culture as the poor one. It's different cultures based on upbringing, not solely on race.

    If it were race dependent then every single person of a race would have the same culture and beliefs as any other person of the same race. But that's not the case.

    Again, you seem to think I'm talking about PC culture in general when I was specifically talking about my interactions with the crazies.


    You've made a lot of assumptions, like the bolded, which I think is a bad idea in a discussion like this. Especially when you're making them based on race. As if I care or don't care about certain things because I'm white or as if every black person is automatically engaged in, and supportive of, what's going on. Generalizations are almost always a mistake. It's particularly strange that you made it seem like I'm separate from middle ground people.

    I think the majority of people are the same, we believe that nobody should be discriminated against based on anything that's out of their control. I don't care if you're the exact opposite of me, a gay black woman, your worth is 100% based on your character. However, every time I see people talking about systemic/institutional racism it appears as if all their examples are more about wealth than it is about race.
    I'm 100% open to hearing anything that can prove that these people are being treated unfairly based solely on race, but so far I haven't heard it. People mention police brutality, but that isn't exclusive to any one race. Poverty isn't exclusive. Violence isn't exclusive. Lack of education isn't exclusive. And so on. I need someone to point out a specific racist target so we can focus on changing it... that's the only way any progress can be made. I think the NFL drama going on right now is accomplishing nothing. Their cause is merely "stopping racial injustice". OK, good, I absolutely agree that there should never be unjust things happening to anyone because of the color of their skin. So that's now the focus, stopping injustice that targets a specific race... but we have to be more specific otherwise nothing can be done.

    Do you see what I'm saying here? I want to be on your side, I want to agree with you, I want us to find a target for every single good person in this country to focus on fixing... but we need to find it first and I don't think we have. I think blaming vague things like "systemic racism" actually hurts the cause, which is awful. If people just accept that that's what's happening then it does more harm than good because we're wasting time and energy on ghost hunting a broad concept instead of a specific problem. Did it exist in the past? Absolutely 100% without a doubt yes. Segregation is a perfect example of institutional racism that is 100% based on race and not on wealth or anything else. But that doesn't exist today because people were able to recognize it as a specific clear target and fix it.

    And please remember if you respond... I'm not against you, I'm not arguing with you, I'm not disagreeing with what you ultimately want... I'm only saying I think the crosshair is in the wrong place.
     
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    Best thing ive done in the last 24 hours was bow out of this conversation lol.

    Also, Wawa > Sheetz
     
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    They are quick-stop convenience stores on steroids. At Wawa you can get everything from a Buffalo Chicken Cheesesteak to a motor oil funnel.
     
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    But really guys....

    Wawa or Sheetz?!?!
     
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    I would give anything to eat one of those jalapeno cheese sausages in a bagel roll things from QT, and by "one" I mean "seven" - I'd seriously embarrass myself if you put a stack of those in front of me. I'd have to return my new pants to the store and buy the stretchiest sweat pants there are. Funnily enough though, it might quell some of these death fart salvos.
     
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    You need to visit Philly so we can eat a hole in the city.
     
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    all I know is D'angelos>>>>Subway.
     
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    I know it, bro. It's a 27 1/2 hour trip to St. Louis from here, plus the jump to Philly, so it might be a while before I am ready to put myself through that lol.
     
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    Babyface >>>> D'Angelo. That's a smooth R&B reference in case you don't understand, granddad :naughty:
     
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    Haven't had Sheetz since graduating college, but their hoagies were awful. From the bread down to the roll. Their breakfast was good and the fact that they had fries and chicken fingers was awesome.

    Wawa is trying too hard now. They are trying to do everything and they are getting worse because of it. I rarely go to wawa anymore.
     
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    Buc-ee's>>>>>>>>>>>"insert convenience store here"

    AINEC
     
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    I can buy three or four varieties of fish balls at my convenience store. Are you guys jealous?
    Speaking of balls, I have to check Tinder, brb.
     
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    Sanders certainly appears to be the most principled of the Final Four; however, I was anxious about his vast social policies that would have put the national debt on a rocket ship. I can completely understand the desire to vote against the career politicians who have been mucking things up for decades, but the alternatives had major scary points, too.
     
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    Wawa AINEC, and i never say AINEC but here I mean it
     
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    I've never had Sheetz in my life and I get infuriated whenever this conversation comes up every four months on here but it's better than the last couple pages.
     
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    You need to control your anger and not get upset over every little thing.

    :naughty:
     
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    Could always just purge the last few pages and be done with it.
     
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    They both have their benefits. Sheetz has some good 24/7 bad-for-you food. However, Wawa's hoagies and breakfast sandwiches are the ****.
     
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    wow grandad.
    you're lucky I think you are a good dude. or i would come out there and beat you with my cane telling you to get off my lawn:wg:
     
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    Wawa or **** ya mutha.

    I was at a graduation a few years ago at PSU. We just happened to go to a Sheetz, their meat was like grey/greenish. Truly vile.

    Wawa is also just amazing so.
     
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    I'm very nearly as old as you are, so we could just have a Star Wars light sabre battle with our canes :D
     
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