2023 NHL Entry Draft Thread (June 28-29, Nashville, TN) -- Who is your choice at 3rd?

[VT]

We need a two-way center with great defense, the ability to play offense, use his partners even under pressure, and he should also win subocees. Which one is that?

 

[Ice9]

We need a two-way center with great defense, the ability to play offense, use his partners even under pressure, and he should also win subocees. Which one is that?

LC? Pretty well rounded kid IMO.

 

[KJ Dangler]

To me, Smith has by far the higher ceiling. If Smith hits you are talking about a 100+ point player that can carry a line and hold possession almost single-handedly, I think he is in the same vein as Pavel Datsyuk potentially (although without that level of Defense). Carlsson is going to max out I would bet in the 80s as a point producer most likely however he has the potential to do that while shutting down the other team's top line. I do think he will be reliant on finishers and will require skilled linemates to make it to that level of point production though.

That’s where I struggle .. Carlsson has never really been a goal scorer , I know it’s different competition , but he’s not overly fast , and his shot is below average .. good hands , but lacks power on his shot

 

[Viqsi]

Could be .. but at the same point they have Voronkov coming over as well . He could be a #3 center that can play up if needed .. similar to what Lundell is doing for Florida right now

I don't think Voronkov affects that decision any more than I think having Jenner still around affects it.

 

[KJ Dangler]

We need a two-way center with great defense, the ability to play offense, use his partners even under pressure, and he should also win subocees. Which one is that?

Voronkov .. in all seriousness who knows . Seems 50/50 that Carlsson is a center in the NHL. Seems like Carlsson is in the mold of Sillinger down the road , but a bit bigger .

 

[VT]

LC? Pretty well rounded kid IMO.

Can he do it under pressure?
Jarmo is unpredictable. Dubois was projected around the 13-15 spot if I remember correctly. That's why, although I doubt it, I wouldn't be surprised if we start someone of Moore/Yager/Leonard/Dvorský/Benson.

 

[KJ Dangler]

I don't think Voronkov affects that decision any more than I think having Jenner still around affects it.

I would say between Voronkov, who produced at a higher level than Marchenko did this past season in KHL, and Sillinger who is supposed to be a center , that Carlsson would be 3 pretty slow centers down the middle

 

[VT]

Voronkov .. in all seriousness who knows . Seems 50/50 that Carlsson is a center in the NHL. Seems like Carlsson is in the mold of Sillinger down the road , but a bit bigger .

Dima hasn't been a full center in the KHL, we'll see.

 

[MoeBartoli]

Can he do it under pressure?
Jarmo is unpredictable. Dubois was projected around the 13-15 spot if I remember correctly. That's why, although I doubt it, I wouldn't be surprised if we start someone of Moore/Yager/Leonard/Dvorský/Benson.

No. Dubois was ranked higher and there were teams that had him over Pool Party. Dubois wasn’t really a reach.

 

[Finner]

If Anaheim doesnt take Fantilli then its Fantilli if they take him then its Carlsson.

 

[Viqsi]

Can he do it under pressure?
Jarmo is unpredictable. Dubois was projected around the 13-15 spot if I remember correctly. That's why, although I doubt it, I wouldn't be surprised if we start someone of Moore/Yager/Leonard/Dvorský/Benson.

You're slightly off. Dubois was projected around the 4-6 spot.

 

[CBJx614]

I'm thinking our 10 year veteran GM will take the worst name on the board....

Just for the record come draft day, who do YOU think that is?

 

[I3LI3]

gotta give major credit and props to @Viqsi for continously saying that there was no way the jackets would get 1st OA, and she was right.

most disrespected franchise in the entire league? yup.. you guessed it, us.

 

[stevo61]

Voronkov .. in all seriousness who knows . Seems 50/50 that Carlsson is a center in the NHL. Seems like Carlsson is in the mold of Sillinger down the road , but a bit bigger .

Except you know... Carlsson isnt like Sillinger at all and his skating isnt as bad as you seem to think it is

 

[Ice9]

gotta give major credit and props to @Viqsi for continously saying that there was no way the jackets would get 1st OA, and she was right.

most disrespected franchise in the entire league? yup.. you guessed it, us.

If indeed fact this in itself should drive everyone from ownership down to correct it.

 

[stevo61]

gotta give major credit and props to @Viqsi for continously saying that there was no way the jackets would get 1st OA, and she was right.

most disrespected franchise in the entire league? yup.. you guessed it, us.

If we go by odds Anaheim was 12% more disrespected

 

[Toe Pick]

#3 picks from the past 32 years. One current and quite a few former Jacket studs in that mix.

2022 - Logan Cooley
2021 - Mason McTavish
2020 - Tim Stutzle
2019 - Kirby Dach
2018 - Jesperi Kotkaniemi
2017 - Miro Heiskanen
2016 - PLD
2015 - Dylan Strome
2014 - Leon Draisaitl
2013 - Jonathan Druin
2012 - Alex Galchenyuk
2011 - Jonathan Huberdeau
2010 - Erik Gudbranson
2009 - Matt Duchene
2008 - Zach Bogosian
2007 - Kyle Turris
2006 - Jonathan Toews
2005 - Jack Johnson
2004 - Cam Barker
2003 - Nathan Horton
2002 - Jay Bouwmeester
2001 - Alexandr Svitov
2000 - Marian Gaborik
1999 - Henrik Sedin
1998 - Brad Stuart
1997 - Olli Jokinen
1996 - J.P. Dumont
1995 - Aki-Petteri Berg
1994 - Radek Bonk
1993 - Chris Gratton
1992 - Mike Rathje
1991 - Scott Neidermayer
1990 - Keith Primeau

 

[nuck]

LC? Pretty well rounded kid IMO.

And big. And not going to wander off to New York like some Russians. Thats why its him or Smith for CBJ. This will be a great draft year, it just seems less because Bedard is in Chicago.

 

[CBJx614]

That’s where I struggle .. Carlsson has never really been a goal scorer , I know it’s different competition , but he’s not overly fast , and his shot is below average .. good hands , but lacks power on his shot

We don't need a pure goal scorer. Our chances at getting a dominant goal scoring playmaker went out the window when we were hopped by Chicago. We need size and a capable center who can not only distribute the puck offensively to his skilled wingers(which we have in spades) but who can make big plays in the defensive zone as well.

Gaudreau - Jenner - Marchenko
Chinakov - Laine - Johnson
Carlsson - Voronkov - Texier
Foudy/Robinson/Bemstrom/Kuraly/somebodiesimforgetting

 

[Long Live Lyle]

#3 picks from the past 32 years. One current and quite a few former Jacket studs in that mix.

2022 - Logan Cooley
2021 - Mason McTavish
2020 - Tim Stutzle
2019 - Kirby Dach
2018 - Jesperi Kotkaniemi
2017 - Miro Heiskanen
2016 - PLD
2015 - Dylan Strome
2014 - Leon Draisaitl
2013 - Jonathan Druin
2012 - Alex Galchenyuk
2011 - Jonathan Huberdeau
2010 - Erik Gudbranson
2009 - Matt Duchene
2008 - Zach Bogosian
2007 - Kyle Turris
2006 - Jonathan Toews
2005 - Jack Johnson
2004 - Cam Barker
2003 - Nathan Horton
2002 - Jay Bouwmeester
2001 - Alexandr Svitov
2000 - Marian Gaborik
1999 - Henrik Sedin
1998 - Brad Stuart
1997 - Olli Jokinen
1996 - J.P. Dumont
1995 - Aki-Petteri Berg
1994 - Radek Bonk
1993 - Chris Gratton
1992 - Mike Rathje
1991 - Scott Neidermayer
1990 - Keith Primeau

Goodness, that list is a wild ride all over the map.

 

[Youngguns80]

We need a two-way center with great defense, the ability to play offense, use his partners even under pressure, and he should also win subocees. Which one is that?

Carlsson

 

[stevo61]

We don't need a pure goal scorer. Our chances at getting a dominant goal scoring playmaker went out the window when we were hopped by Chicago. We need size and a capable center who can not only distribute the puck offensively to his skilled wingers(which we have in spades) but who can make big plays in the defensive zone as well.

Gaudreau - Jenner - Marchenko
Chinakov - Laine - Johnson
Carlsson - Voronkov - Texier
Foudy/Robinson/Bemstrom/Kuraly/somebodiesimforgetting

Plus we have goal scorers on the wings. Gaudreau and Johnson are also dual threats and can easily be in the 25-30ish goal range on top on the playmaking. The fact Carlsson has such 2 way upside and the ability to play the game a different way is huge.
Long term it can let us pair Gaudreau-Johnson and Carlsson-Laine, pretty darn good mix

 

[Ice9]

We don't need a pure goal scorer. Our chances at getting a dominant goal scoring playmaker went out the window when we were hopped by Chicago. We need size and a capable center who can not only distribute the puck offensively to his skilled wingers(which we have in spades) but who can make big plays in the defensive zone as well.

Gaudreau - Jenner - Marchenko
Chinakov - Laine - Johnson
Carlsson - Voronkov - Texier
Foudy/Robinson/Bemstrom/Kuraly/somebodiesimforgetting

They've said their drafting (hopefully) a true 1 C and you've got him slotted as a third line winger. I'm not thinking that'll happen.

 

[Finner]

If Anaheim doesnt take Fantilli then its Fantilli if they take him then its Carlsson.

 

[ViD]

If they continue the Laine C experiment and draft Carlsson our center depth might look like

Laine
Carlsson
Voronkov
Jenner

That’s one of the biggest C lineup in the league