I'm gonna be real pissed if Vegas wins the cup and it ends up that we gave them the hardest fight. Without our best forward. With DeMelo and Martin playing a decent chunk of minutes. And with us being so generous to welcome them to the 2nd round by allowing them to blow us the f*** out game 1. Help us Kucherov or Ovechkin. One of you two are our only hopes.
GDT: 2018 Other Playoff Games Part II
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TomasHertlsRooster
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Don’t count Winnipeg out just yet, but I’m starting to think Vegas will win the Cup. Fleury has adapted and is finally showing why he was drafted 1st overall in the greatest draft in NHL history.
Really, I think we should be relying on Vasilevskiy or Holtby. As long as one of those guys just doesn’t look significantly worse than Fleury, Vegas probably loses. Quick is the only guy who didn’t look significantly worse than Fleury, and his team was actually so much worse than Vegas.
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Does anyone in the NHL front office think this might be a joke than an expansion team is 1 win away from a SCF birth?
I almost wish Vegas wins the cup just to see the reaction. I want the media to ask the GMs and coaches how they got punked by an expansion team.
#TestFleuryforPEDs
TomasHertlsRooster
Don’t say eye test when you mean points
The funny part is, DW might be the one GM off the hook. Schlemko was immediately traded and Carpenter has been decent but nothing special for them, and so far, San Jose is the only team who has looked like they still had a chance to beat Vegas after 4 games.
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I blame GMs more then the system. Glad to see Vegas beating a "real team that we should model ourselves after". For whatever reason it makes me feel a little better about losing lolDoes anyone in the NHL front office think this might be a joke than an expansion team is 1 win away from a SCF birth?
Until we find out vegas drafts the next gretzky in the 5th round pick they got for him from montreal lol
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rangerssharks414
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I really can’t get myself to watch the playoffs anymore. I watched a little of the Winnipeg vs. Nashville Game 7, but I haven’t watched any of the conference finals. I’m just too sad.
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First, VGK did their research (hard to fault other teams on that).
Second, some teams had to expose guys they didn't want to loose. To protect that player(s), they had to trade another asset (player, pick) to VGK.
Third, some teams wanted VGK to pick guys specifically (like cap space freedom from guys who will sit out the rest of their contracts on LTIR). VGK was persuaded by acquiring a different asset.
(Sharks did their protection thing by trading away guy/Mueller to another team/NJ so they exposed who they wanted. And IMHO lost one of the guys they signed to expose: Schlemko as the D and Boedker as the F.
Sharks have been pretty good about signing guys to realistic deals. Very small # of buyouts, which will probably increase by one this summer.
And they were set up with zero players with NMCs they had to protect.)
The other thing is, how many of the VGK players, if given the opportunity they had with a new/expanded role and fresh opportunities on their old teams, could have (much less would have) had a career year like they had in Vegas?
And don't discount the synergy of newly formed team coming together and the further catalyst of the tragedy that allowed the team to be the focus of the entire city.
With the looming Seattle expansion potential in two years, I think that many GMs will be carefully looking at expiring contracts and signing new players with that in mind. (Not to mention the potential for the end of the CBA in 2020.)
Given the experience this time around, the GMs may choose to better prepare for the next expansion draft differently.
And if anyone's fired, it may be that the owner had input on the exposed players and is putting the blame on the GM/firee for what they approved.
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Perhaps one could say that Vegas is proof of how a management team can do when they have loads of time to build a team.
Think about that. For a year, all they really had to worry about was the entry and expansion drafts.
Back on topic, Tampa scores!
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Really nice pass by Kucherov. For all his issues away from the puck, how many players can realize what is going on and make that pass?
Looks like a missed call on Stamkos. Still, Holtby has to make that save.
Looks like a missed call on Stamkos. Still, Holtby has to make that save.
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They're very lucky to have made it this far. Ovechkin went Beast Mode for the first two rounds plus two games of this one but there's only so much he and Kuznetsov can do.
OrrNumber4
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It isn’t like they don’t have other top players. Backstrom, Holtby, Oshie, and Carlson could be doing much more. Plus Niskanen and Orlov (-2 in the first).
Maladroit
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Yeah but Tampa just has far more talent. Also Oshie looks cooked, that contract is going to haunt them for a long time.
TomasHertlsRooster
Don’t say eye test when you mean points
Tampa Bay has what, 5 forwards better than Oshie? They don’t compare. It’s a miracle that Washington won 2 games and dominated them.
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That's true.
If both teams are at their best, Tampa is going to win the series.
But that doesn't excuse any player from not playing at his best, and contributing at his best.
There is a definite talent gap, but Oshie (and Orlov/Backstrom/Carlson/Holtby) could be playing better. In fact, Tampa isn't playing at its best and Washington made them pay for it in two games. They had opportunities to win games 3 and 4, but they didn't capitalize (pun intended). Heck, if Orlov had been scratched, maybe the Capitals head home up 3-2.
I like the Caps quite a bit, but if Tampa can kick the shit out of Vegas, I'm okay with them going to the finals.
Overall, I'm still bitter as hell. Will be the first time in 25 years I won't be watching a minute of the damn finals... thanks Bettman.
Overall, I'm still bitter as hell. Will be the first time in 25 years I won't be watching a minute of the damn finals... thanks Bettman.
SJSharksfan39
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I've felt the same way actually. With the Giants, A's, and Warriors, it feels like I'm already in Hockey offseason mode. I wish they would shift the schedule to end the season before June.
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If Vegas wins tonight we should fly out to Vegas, stand in front of the arena and hand out informational pamphlets on what icing and offsides is. Im not jaded at all.
