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Those are few and very far between.That's okay. The best picks are the ones that leave everyone scratching their heads until the guy becomes a star.
Those are few and very far between.That's okay. The best picks are the ones that leave everyone scratching their heads until the guy becomes a star.
Did you read the introduction? He said that his board rarely goes past 50 in the actual draft and also gave a solid explanation for why the rounds aren't 31 picks.74 names in a draft that will have over 200 players selected likely won't last the entire draft. What good is a comprehensive ranking that lists 20 some names as first round talent when there is 31 picks in the round? I don't really have a problem, but was pointing out quirks in his analysis and approach. He might give a secound round grade to a player that other people have as a first round talent because he doesn't like see game breaking skill, but he only has 20 first round prospects?
Hayton will go closer to 10 then he will 20
Right now, he is slated to go in the 15-20 range, if you look at the aggregate rankings I think he averages out to pick #16.25 or something like that.
If he's still there around 16-18 (real good chance), we should have a trade in place to move up, no doubt about it.
What about Boqvist?
If Boqvist falls past the top 15 I hope we're very active in trying to move up from the Vegas pick to take him. The concussions are scary, but if we walked away from this draft with Bouchard/Dobson/Hughes and Boqvist I wouldn't be able to contain my excitement. That would be amazing.I watched most of the Hamilton vs. A-Bathurst game last night. I liked what I saw from Dobson. He looks smooth. Two weeks ago I was all in for Bouchard, now both Hughes and Dobson are rising for me. Boqvist will be this year's Liljegren and drop on draft day. I will be happy with Bouchard/Hughes/Dobson.
On a side note, Kaden Fulcher looked great in nets. Hopefully we found ourselves a nice free agent steal in nets. Goalies are so hard to project, but hopefully he can keep his play up. I'm praying one of Larsson or Fulcher works out.
there is big difference between Liljegren and Boqvist , one just had bad year , another has health problem , could make him retire much sooner.If Boqvist falls past the top 15 I hope we're very active in trying to move up from the Vegas pick to take him. The concussions are scary, but if we walked away from this draft with Bouchard/Dobson/Hughes and Boqvist I wouldn't be able to contain my excitement. That would be amazing.
Brock Otten is releasing his top 50 rankings for the OHL... always a good read and you can find a write-up for all players, which is nice.
16. Pavel Gogolev - Forward - Peterborough Petes
Tough to stand out on a poor Peterborough squad this year, but Gogolev did just that on most occasions. His 30 goals were 3rd among first time draft eligible players from the OHL this year. Best of all, 26 of those came 5 on 5 which was 6th best in the entire OHL. Flat out, Gogolev can put the puck in the net. Has an absolutely terrific release, especially at top speed, which is excellent. Gogolev has great wheels and he is constantly looking to push the pace across the opposing blueline. Speed, skill, and finishing ability makes Gogolev a potential sniper at the NHL level. The rest of his game is a work in progress though. Intensity in all three zones and away from the puck needs to be more consistent. Should be using his speed more to be a forechecker and to help get pucks out of his own end, but can get caught floating or watching the play when it's not on his stick. Can also be turnover prone in the offensive zone as tunnel vision gets a hold of him. Coming out of minor midget, he was billed as a terrific boards player, but that's something we haven't seen much of at the OHL level. He's listed at 170lbs right now, which is quite slight. If he can really work to add some muscle and improve his play away from the puck, he could be a real asset, dare I even say a star, in this league. Hopefully the new Petes coach can light a fire under him even further.
there is big difference between Liljegren and Boqvist , one just had bad year , another has health problem , could make him retire much sooner.
Brock Otten is releasing his top 50 rankings for the OHL... always a good read and you can find a write-up for all players, which is nice.
Here are a few he has highlighted who I am a fan of:
more here: OHL Prospects: My Final Top 50 OHL Players for the 2018 NHL Entry Draft - Part 3: 30-11
13. Allan McShane - Forward - Oshawa Generals
McShane is easily one of the best playmakers available this year IMO. His vision in the offensive zone and deft passing touch are his best assets. This guy can really thread the needle. McShane is at his best working the cycle and the wall, using a wide base to protect the puck until he finds an opening for a linemate. At the U18's, where he was one of Canada's best players, this was on full display. McShane is also a terrific face-off man and an effective defensive player who profiles as a very solid two-way center at the next level. The key to his development will be in improving his skating. Lacks power in his first few strides and his top speed isn't great either. At the pace that the pro game is played at now, he'll need to really upgrade that to be effective as a playmaker. He won't always be able to slow the game down, especially if he sticks down the middle. But the way he processes the game can't be ignored and he deserves to be selected in the first two rounds because of it. The other thing I'd like to see from McShane, is a more concerted effort to attack the middle of the ice. I'm not sure that I would call him a perimeter player. But at the same time, some of those consistency issues could be ironed out if he found more success working through traffic in the slot and near the crease. Again though. This is a smart hockey player who should eventually be one of the higher scorers in the OHL.
16. Pavel Gogolev - Forward - Peterborough Petes
Tough to stand out on a poor Peterborough squad this year, but Gogolev did just that on most occasions. His 30 goals were 3rd among first time draft eligible players from the OHL this year. Best of all, 26 of those came 5 on 5 which was 6th best in the entire OHL. Flat out, Gogolev can put the puck in the net. Has an absolutely terrific release, especially at top speed, which is excellent. Gogolev has great wheels and he is constantly looking to push the pace across the opposing blueline. Speed, skill, and finishing ability makes Gogolev a potential sniper at the NHL level. The rest of his game is a work in progress though. Intensity in all three zones and away from the puck needs to be more consistent. Should be using his speed more to be a forechecker and to help get pucks out of his own end, but can get caught floating or watching the play when it's not on his stick. Can also be turnover prone in the offensive zone as tunnel vision gets a hold of him. Coming out of minor midget, he was billed as a terrific boards player, but that's something we haven't seen much of at the OHL level. He's listed at 170lbs right now, which is quite slight. If he can really work to add some muscle and improve his play away from the puck, he could be a real asset, dare I even say a star, in this league. Hopefully the new Petes coach can light a fire under him even further.
He is generally considered a top 3 center in this draft, and I would venture to guess that 3 centers will be taken in the first 15 picks.
Any one else going to there Memorial Cup? Noah Dobson has bean an absolute beast.
If he is still available at 6 sign me up!
Right now, he is slated to go in the 15-20 range, if you look at the aggregate rankings I think he averages out to pick #16.25 or something like that.
If he's still there around 16-18 (real good chance), we should have a trade in place to move up, no doubt about it.
Usually yeah but this draft is much stronger on the back end and on the wing than down the middle.
Yeah, Hayton will probably fall somewhere in that 10-20 range. I've seen him as high as 10 and as low as 27, but most of the newer rankings seem to have him in the lower teens.
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Does't matter, teams need centers so they will draft centers... even if it's before they "should" go.
Mckenzie had him at #12, and that is polling actual scouts. He also had a pretty good playoff performance as well so I imagine he goes in the 10-15 range pretty easily.
What if we reach for Kotkaniemi..?
Those Kopitar-style comparisons are really starting to please me...
What if we reach for Kotkaniemi..?