Speculation: 2018 NHL Draft Talk :)

[Cardiac Jerks]

Any interest trading down from #2 to #9? What are your roster needs? Are you rebuilding or or what?

No interest unless you made a ridiculously crazy offer that knocked our socks off and made us question your sanity.

 

[sabremike]

Any interest trading down from #2 to #9? What are your roster needs? Are you rebuilding or or what?

I think you are in the wrong thread, this is the Draft thread not the Horrible Trade Proposals one.

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

I think you are in the wrong thread, this is the Draft thread not the Horrible Trade Proposals one.

I didn't even propose anything yet.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

I didn't even propose anything yet.

Don't bother.

 

[CandyCanes]

Any interest trading down from #2 to #9? What are your roster needs? Are you rebuilding or or what?

No interest at all honestly.

 

[DaveG]

Any interest trading down from #2 to #9? What are your roster needs? Are you rebuilding or or what?

Rangers don't have the piece that would entice us to make this move. Buchnevich + #9 still wouldn't get you #2.

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

Rangers don't have the piece that would entice us to make this move. Buchnevich + #9 still wouldn't get you #2.

That's fine Buchnevich himself might be better than Svechnikov plus he is already NHL and KHL proven.

 

[DaveG]

Sure there's a chance of that, but there's a better chance that Svechnikov outproduces Buchnevich as soon as next season.

 

[GoldiFox]

That's fine Buchnevich himself might be better than Svechnikov plus he is already NHL and KHL proven.

I absolutely love Buchnevich. He’s my favorite player outside the Canes and I’d pay Hanifin+ for him.

Svechnikov is a tier above already. The Canes need elite talent if they are going to compete in the Metro. Svechnikov is a god-send that they would be foolish to deal away for anyone short of a U22 surefire #1C Eichel/Matthews type.

 

[bobc222]

#2+Darling for Hank+Buchnevich+#9

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Nope.

 

[Chan790]

Any interest trading down from #2 to #9? What are your roster needs? Are you rebuilding or or what?

Virtually none.

We're looking to end our rebuild and compete. The Canes FO has said they think they can get a superstar at #2 and an offer would have to be of "Really, they'd pay that!" variety. Also, it has to help long-term, not just 3 or 4 years.

I don't think a trade-down would be considered. A trade-out of the 1st entirely, for some else's elite young forward on ELC, seems more likely.

 

[w e l o s t b o y s]

if they end up with a second 1st somewhere in the teens or something who would you like to see picked

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

#2+Darling for Hank+Buchnevich+#9

makes no sense for the Rangers

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

Sure there's a chance of that, but there's a better chance that Svechnikov outproduces Buchnevich as soon as next season.

Under a new coach Buchnevich is back on top 2 lines and on top PP unit he will likely hit 70 points. You really overvalue the difference between Svechnikov at #2 and Wahlstrom or Kotkaniemi at #9

 

[GoldiFox]

Under a new coach Buchnevich is back on top 2 lines and on top PP unit he will likely hit 70 points. You really overvalue the difference between Svechnikov at #2 and Wahlstrom or Kotkaniemi at #9

If we are making predictions then Svechnikov will likely hit 30+ Goals next year. He will be a 30+/30+ scorer on an ELC for the next 3 years which is insanely valuable for a budget team. He is also ready right now rather than 2-3 years out which is highly desirable for the Canes.

You really undervalue the difference between Wahlstrom or Kotkaniemi and Svechnikov. Besides that it isn’t guaranteed that Wahlstrom or Kotkaniemi will be available at #9, much less both.

 

[Unsustainable]

If we are making predictions then Svechnikov will likely hit 30+ Goals next year. He will be a 30+/30+ scorer on an ELC for the next 3 years which is insanely valuable for a budget team. He is also ready right now rather than 2-3 years out which is highly desirable for the Canes.

You really undervalue the difference between Wahlstrom or Kotkaniemi and Svechnikov. Besides that it isn’t guaranteed that Wahlstrom or Kotkaniemi will be available at #9, much less both.

If Svechnikov hits 30+ a season for his ELC, he’s also expansion draft exempt for Seattle in 2020

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

If we are making predictions then Svechnikov will likely hit 30+ Goals next year. He will be a 30+/30+ scorer on an ELC for the next 3 years which is insanely valuable for a budget team. He is also ready right now rather than 2-3 years out which is highly desirable for the Canes.

You really undervalue the difference between Wahlstrom or Kotkaniemi and Svechnikov. Besides that it isn’t guaranteed that Wahlstrom or Kotkaniemi will be available at #9, much less both.

we shall see, but Rangers would be Pejorative Slured to give up Buchnevich + Kotkaniemi for Svechnikov

 

[Lempo]

If we are making predictions then Svechnikov will likely hit 30+ Goals next year. He will be a 30+/30+ scorer on an ELC for the next 3 years which is insanely valuable for a budget team. He is also ready right now rather than 2-3 years out which is highly desirable for the Canes.

You really undervalue the difference between Wahlstrom or Kotkaniemi and Svechnikov. Besides that it isn’t guaranteed that Wahlstrom or Kotkaniemi will be available at #9, much less both.

If he's hitting 30+ goals he's not far from also hitting his 2OA standard Schedule B bonus of $1.8M for being a league top 10 goalsman and being a ~$3.5M guy per season altogether.

Totally worth of the money, obviously.

 

[GoldiFox]

If he's hitting 30+ goals he's not far from also hitting his 2OA standard Schedule B bonus of $1.8M for being a league top 10 goalsman and being a ~$3.5M guy per season altogether.

Totally worth of the money, obviously.

Yeah same difference whether it is ~$1 million for a $5 million player ($4 million ELC value bonus) or $3.5 million for an $7.5 million player ($4 million ELC value bonus).

 

[Lempo]

Yeah same difference whether it is ~$1 million for a $5 million player ($4 million ELC value bonus) or $3.5 million for an $7.5 million player ($4 million ELC value bonus).

I hate myself if I do, but I'd also hate myself if I didn't, so: you won't get $5M guy for ~$1M. Potential $5M guy has enough leverage to get considerable A bonuses on his ELC and he will also hit them with his $5M performance, diminishing the ELC value bonus closer to $3M.

But on the positive note, this makes Svetch even more valuable.

Also, ELC value bonus needs to be a thing.

 

[Unsustainable]

We aren’t moving the pick unless it’s a super star coming back.

Svechnikov could very well be scoring like Matthews or Laine out of the gate. He seems to be just below McDavid.

 

[Lempo]

We aren’t moving the pick unless it’s a super star coming back.

Svechnikov could very well be scoring like Matthews or Laine out of the gate. He seems to be just below McDavid.

Oh, good. I haven't fought with the Leafs fans over the prowess of a 2OA for a while now.

 

[Unsustainable]

Oh, good. I haven't fought with the Leafs fans over the prowess of a 2OA for a while now.

Aho > Marner AINEC

 

[Navin R Slavin]

we shall see, but Rangers would be ******ed to give up Buchnevich + Kotkaniemi for Svechnikov

You're right! It's almost like there's no sensible deal to be had, and you're wasting everybody's time by offering garbage for #2OA!