Prospect Info: 2018 NHL Draft - Shall We Begin?

[DrinkFightFlyers]

Those rankings for pick 19....

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Why is Sbisa even on the list? Is #19 that weak? And even if he is...how the hell is he above Getzlaf and Vasilievsky???

 

[Les Averman]

Interesting article on The Athletic about 5 sleepers that will be available after the first round with high ceilings. Can't post the article due to the paywall but can at least list the names if anybody has any thoughts:

Nicolas Beaudin - D, Drummondville (QMJHL)
Brendan Budy - C/LW, Langley (BCHL)
Linus Nyman - F, Kingston (OHL)
Nathan Dunkley - C, London (OHL)
Marcus Karlberg - LW/RW, Leksands (U18 Superelit)

Wheeler: Five 2018 NHL draft sleepers teams without first...
Side note, somebody on the draft board convinced me to finally pay up for The Athletic and I love it, if anybody is considering. Much higher quality and well constructed articles. Don't love Pronman necessarily but he even still puts out some solid content, and there's other guys putting out some nice articles, including our own Appleyard.
EDIT: And if you are, let me know. Apparently there's a referral program that gives us both a discount

 

[Curufinwe]

Reminder that while we may consider Konecny to be untouchable, Dave's still not sure whether or not he's better than a third-line winger.

I fully expect the Flyers to trade Konecny within the next two years.

Yawn. That's what people said about Ghost last year.

 

[Rebels57]

Only 27 more days until the draft anyone else counting down?

I used to be excited about the draft, but this organization has killed that too. Whoever we draft might not even make the team until Girouxs contract expires.

 

[Curufinwe]

I used to be excited about the draft, but this organization has killed that too. Whoever we draft might not even make the team until Girouxs contract expires.

Sanheim and Lindblom (a 5th rounder) made it after three years. Provorov and Konecny made the team after one year. Patrick made it after zero years.

Giroux's deal has four years left.

 

[Rebels57]

Sanheim and Lindblom (a 5th rounder) made it after three years. Provorov and Konecny made the team after one year. Patrick made it after zero years.

Giroux's deal has four years left.

I knew that you specifically would reply to that with this exact reply.

 

[Flyerfan13]

@BigToe ur up dude

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Curious, for those in the top 10, who do you think is going to start in the NHL next season? Do you think Quinn Hughes will? Just curious since I'm making myself a list for something.

 

[Curufinwe]

I knew that you specifically would reply to that with this exact reply.

Do you know why you would bother to claim the 14th and 19th picks in this year's draft are at least four years away when Konecny made the Flyers as a 19 year old after being taken 24th overall in 2015?

It's like when deadhead claims Hak had no other options than to overplay Lehtera. Demonstrably false and a waste of everyone's time.

 

[Rebels57]

Do you know why you would bother to claim the 14th and 19th picks in this year's draft are at least four years away when Konecny made the Flyers as a 19 year old after being taken 24th overall in 2015?

It's like when deadhead claims Hak had no other options than to overplay Lehtera. Demonstrably false and a waste of everyone's time.

A - I was exaggerating out of frustration. It's not that serious.

B - I said "might not even make." With might being the operative word.

C - Let's not act like every prospect has made it in their Draft +2 like Konecny. Lindblom has 23 games under his belt heading into his Draft +5. Sanheim has 49 games heading into his Draft +5. NAK hasnt played an NHL game yet heading into his Draft +5. Players being 3-5 years out is more the norm for the Flyers than Patrick, Provorov, and Konecny (2 of whom were top 10 picks and 1 of which was arguably a top 10 talent in that draft).

D - Isn't all of this a waste of our time at the end of the day?

 

[BigToe]

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Why is Sbisa even on the list? Is #19 that weak? And even if he is...how the hell is he above Getzlaf and Vasilievsky???

19 is kinda weak. Maybe he’ll go farther down if some of the recent guys develop, but right now I’d put him at 6 and move Bjugstad in the top 5.

 

[BigToe]

Curious, for those in the top 10, who do you think is going to start in the NHL next season? Do you think Quinn Hughes will? Just curious since I'm making myself a list for something.

I think Dahlin and Svechnikov are the locks. Tkachuk might make it depending on who drafts him.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

I think Dahlin and Svechnikov are the locks. Tkachuk might make it depending on who drafts him.

Tkachuk has said that he's going back to college next year.

 

[BigToe]

Tkachuk has said that he's going back to college next year.

Oh, well I can’t see anyone else making it. Maybe Montreal throws Zadina in at 1st line C lol.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Tkachuk has said that he's going back to college next year.

He said the other day he’ll make a decision with the team that drafts him after the draft. He can play in the AHL or go to London in the OHL along with staying at BU.

 

[HammerTime44]

I had a dream that we got Dobson at 14 and Kotkaniemi at 19 and I was stoked until I woke up.

 

[BigToe]

I had a dream that we got Dobson at 14 and Kotkaniemi at 19 and I was stoked until I woke up.

 

[deadhead]

A - I was exaggerating out of frustration. It's not that serious.

B - I said "might not even make." With might being the operative word.

C - Let's not act like every prospect has made it in their Draft +2 like Konecny. Lindblom has 23 games under his belt heading into his Draft +5. Sanheim has 49 games heading into his Draft +5. NAK hasnt played an NHL game yet heading into his Draft +5. Players being 3-5 years out is more the norm for the Flyers/NHL than Patrick, Provorov, and Konecny (2 of whom were top 10 picks and 1 of which was arguably a top 10 talent in that draft).

D - Isn't all of this a waste of our time at the end of the day?

NAK #48, Lindblom 5th rd, it's rare for these guys to make it before their Draft +5 season.
Konecny #24, unusual for him to make it in his Draft +2.
Frost #27 could make it in his Draft +2, almost certain in his Draft +3
Works both ways.

So what if these two picks don't make it until 2021, they'd be well marinated (2 PD JR, 1 AHL) and ready to step into the bottom six.
Which means if we sign someone to a 3 year deal, someone in the bottom six (Frost, Ratcliffe, Allison, etc.) can move up when that FA leaves.

And that is how you sustain excellence throughout the entire decade of the 2020s.

 

[Flyers Faithful]

Had a dream we walked away with Wahlstrom AND Bouchard...at the expense of both firsts, Simmer, Hagg and taking on Bobby Ryan’s contract.

 

[Flyers Faithful]

I had a dream that we got Dobson at 14 and Kotkaniemi at 19 and I was stoked until I woke up.

That’s Wilde I had a dream about the draft too

 

[MarAlain MongYeo]

The more I think about it, the more I think Farabee drops to us at #14.

With Kotkaniemi seemingly jumping into the top 10 from where he was rnked mid year that probably means Farabee as a likely candidate to fall.

Plus, I know that teams usually dont usually go for needs in the first round, but from an outside perspective it seems like the last thing Dallas and the Islanders need is a complimentary winger. New York definitely needs at least one D man and most likely a Center (Veleno or Hayton). Dallas has gone mostly wingers in the first round recently and seem to be rather week down the middle, so I could easily see them taking which ever one of Veleno or Hayton, possibly even maybe Kupari or Lundstrom.

Still, something in my gut tells me even if Farabee drops to #14, Hexy will pass.

 

[Cyborg LeClair]

I havent done nearly as much research as some of yall, but based on what i have read and watched so far (mostly scouting evaluations from various sites and highlight packages so nothing too in depth) this is my current top 15. This is BPA with the Flyers in mind as the team drafting.

1. Dahlin
2. Svechnikov
3. Hughes
4. Zadina
5. Boqvist
6. Wahlstrom
7. Tkachuk
8. Kotkaniemi
9. Dobson
10. Farabee
11. Bokk
12. Kravtsov
13. Berggren
14. Bouchard
15. Hayton

Im probably way off on a few guys, but i really like skill and skating ability. Scoring is what i want to add to this team and i also value someone who's more dynamic than reserved. This gives higher risk of busting but id rather swing for the fences than go for a single to left.

Bokk, Kravtsov, and Berggren are all very intriguing players, high boom/bust potential in my eyes. But if they hit, theyre very dynamic scorers which would be awesome.

 

[FlyTimmo]

My current list, and it is subject to change considering I have limited viewings of a handful of these guys. There is a decent chance I am missing a someone in the later picks.

Ranking	Player	Position
1	Rasmus Dahlin	LD
2	Andrei Svechnikov	RW
3	Filip Zadina	LW
4	Brady Tkachuk	C/LW
5	Quinn Hughes	LD
6	Adam Boqvist	RD
7	Jesperi Kotkaniemi	C/LW
8	Noah Dobson	RD
9	Evan Bouchard	RD
10	Oliver Wahlstrom	RW
11	Joel Farabee	LW
12	Martin Kaut	RW
13	Jonatan Berggren	RW/C
14	Vitali Kravtsov	RW
15	Ty Smith	RD
16	Isac Lundestrom	C
17	Grigori Denisenko	LW
18	Joe Veleno	C
19	Dominik Bokk	RW
20	Barrett Hayton	C
21	K'Andre Miller	LD
22	Rasmus Kupari	LW
23	Bode Wilde	RD
24	Jonathan Tychonick	LD
25	Mattias Samuelsson	LD
26	Rasmus Sandin	D
27	Nils Lundkvist	RD
28	Serron Noel	RW
29	Jared McIsaac	LD
30	Ryan McLeod	C
31	Akil Thomas	C

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

In my opinion there are solid dropoffs in talent after picks: 1, 11, 21

 

[BigToe]

If I had a legit list it would probably have about 9-10ish guys. It’s so hard for me to really focus on more than one or two players in a game lol.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Yawn. That's what people said about Ghost last year.

The guy benched to end most games, that Ghost ?