hockeykicker
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just curious. say jay gruden is available via trade as some mention maybe possible. whats he worth? obviously he isnt john gruden trade worth
O'Brien was hired in the same year they had the top pick in the draft. In round 2, they could have drafted Carr or Jimmy G but passed on both guys to grab a guard from UCLA.Because before Watson, the QB position (his supposed speciality) was a black hole and he couldn't get anything out of them. Now a talented and confident QB arrives, who has been great at every level of play, and he deserves all the credit for him? Bull****. DeShaun Watson elevated the players around him.
That is to their fault, but the Texans also had Keenum and Savage in their camp in 2014. What if they had the 2017 version of Keenum this year?O'Brien was hired in the same year they had the top pick in the draft. In round 2, they could have drafted Carr or Jimmy G but passed on both guys to grab a guard from UCLA.
Certainly he would have had input into whether either guy was worth their 2nd round pick.
Don think the Texans will can him? Doubt it.
I thought that was his chin dimple.Because before Watson, the QB position (his supposed speciality) was a black hole
just curious. say jay gruden is available via trade as some mention maybe possible. whats he worth? obviously he isnt john gruden trade worth
What has Jay Gruden to make him worth giving something up to get?
Is he better than the many others options that don't cost you assets?
It could be argued that going to playoffs with Brian Hoyer and Brock Osweiler as your QB's is an achievement to show his ability to overcome crap at QB
I mean he won 9 games with Ryan Fitzpatrick , Brian Hoyer and Brock Osweiler as #1's in three consecutive seasons. That type of QB lineup would get most coaches fired
SnyderDon't understand why people were even claiming gruden was on the hot seat
Don't think it was really about him getting canned so much as the team may be leaving him without a QB if they don't sign cousins long term as a third franchise tag is going to be too costly for them against the cap.Don't understand why people were even claiming gruden was on the hot seat
Don't like the move for either side.
Safe to say Del Rio is done if that story is getting leaked.
Is Gruden Watch an actual thing this year or is it conjecture bull*** like the last 5 years?
Seems to be a bit more smoke around it this time around.