2017 Hot Seat

[HisIceness]

Yeah, he was a dead man walking after that Florida game.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Browns now 1-24 under Hue Jackson

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Its not on Hue. He doesn’t have the players

 

[Dave is a killer]

I would've fired him after last season, his Conference record was absolute trash

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Gotta think McAdoo could very well be fired by 3 PM tomorrow.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Gotta think McAdoo could very well be fired by 3 PM tomorrow.

if he gets told he is fired will he call it fake news? like he did at that presser when told of players wanting him gone?

 

[NewtJorden]

Gotta think McAdoo could very well be fired by 3 PM tomorrow.

He probably should be fired, but they most likely will keep him for the rest of the season. Putting a new coach there could be the sparks that might prevent them from a chance at the first pick in the draft.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Its not on Hue. He doesn’t have the players

 

[Voight]

He probably should be fired, but they most likely will keep him for the rest of the season. Putting a new coach there could be the sparks that might prevent them from a chance at the first pick in the draft.

I read a report last week that they wouldn't make any in season changes. Its better to hire a new coach in the off season when more may be available and then they'll have more time for the players to get used to their system.

 

[Troy McClure]

Its not on Hue. He doesn’t have the players

He doesn't. He has a number of good athletes. Lots of young guys with promise, but the front office took away pretty much every veteran player the Browns had so their draft picks could play. Some of those picks are going to be great players, but even they are making rookie mistakes. A roster that's half rookies means the rookie mistake excuse is can come up about five times a quarter, which leads to ugly losses.

That said, Hue also hasn't done anything to coach this team up. His play calling has been odd at times, and his clock management at the end of halves is freaking terrible. I can't think of any offensive player who I'd attribute any success to Hue. His best weapon is Duke Johnson, and Hue struggled to get Johnson involved in the majority of the games he's coached.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

All the NY papers had covers basically demanding that McAdoo be fired today. The fact it has not happened yet suggests it won't for the rest of the season.

 

[rangerssharks414]

Rocky Bottom: Tennessee has lost its latest game against every SEC opponent

Amazing.

 

[Hasbro]

It was my understanding from Moneyball that Beane and DePodesta saw the manager as a figurehead and not integral to success. Maybe the same attitude is work here and translating to football.

 

[EpochLink]

McAdoo became the Giants OC in 2014, under him the giants offense was pretty decent with Eli going 30 TD back to back. Problem was their offensive line wasn’t shit and their defense was trash.

Fast forward 2 years later, Reese spends money on defense, McAdoo gets promoted to HC...offense can’t even bust 30 points while the defense is playing lights now.

This year, defense is getting sick and tired of McAdoo’s bullshit...offense looks like crap, players revolting/quitting, have not addressed the line backers spots and offensive line is TRASH.

Enough, Reese/McAdoo have to go.

 

[YEM]

Enough, Reese/McAdoo have to go.

every single giants fan knew that they needed lots of help with the o-line and running game this past offseason. they did not address it at all. that, combined with the D regressing a bit and the irreplaceable injuries to the receivers have led to a perfect storm of suck.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

It was my understanding from Moneyball that Beane and DePodesta saw the manager as a figurehead and not integral to success. Maybe the same attitude is work here and translating to football.

Which doesn't work.

 

[Hasbro]

Which doesn't work.

I will throw the current Browns debacle back in the faces of stat whackers so hard it gives them a black eye.

 

[Troy McClure]

I will throw the current Browns debacle back in the faces of stat whackers so hard it gives them a black eye.

Yeah, there’s a lot of that going on with the old crusty reporters in Celeveland. They see this as proof analytics don’t work (despite the fact teams like the Patriots use a lot of analytics). They also think this proves you need a football guy as GM (despite the fact the Browns have plowed through something like ten football guys as GMs since coming back).

 

[Hasbro]

Yeah, there’s a lot of that going on with the old crusty reporters in Celeveland. They see this as proof analytics don’t work (despite the fact teams like the Patriots use a lot of analytics). They also think this proves you need a football guy as GM (despite the fact the Browns have plowed through something like ten football guys as GMs since coming back).

The Jaguars also use analytics!

Their record in the 4 seasons after that piece: 15-49. That's in the AFC South.

Like hiring his coordinators and trading for his back up QBs this reliance on analytics might be another small pox infested hoodie Belichick has distributed onto his competition.

 

[Troy McClure]

Hey, where I'll agree is when these analytics folks the Browns decided they loved their draft picks so much they got rid of every vet to make room for their guys. That was beyond stupid.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Analytics are not why the Browns suck. Bad coaching and QB play are why. Hue is another good oc/bad hc guy. Gregg Williams is a terrible defensive coordinator. Playing safeties 20 yards off the LOS is basically gifting your opponent 10-12 yards per play.

 

[Hasbro]

Hey, where I'll agree is when these analytics folks the Browns decided they loved their draft picks so much they got rid of every vet to make room for their guys. That was beyond stupid.

Drafting more WRs than they have room for, knocking off early while there's an ongoing trade.

I'm willing to bet they did some superficial analysis on drafting QBs looking at the bust rate of 1st round picks and deciding that they were just as well taking Kizer in the 2nd rather than any ground breaking analysis on the individual prospects.

That's the one thing they need to emulate about the Pats and the hardest to do GET A QB. Belichick has only done that once himself (but not needed to in the last 16 years).

 

[StreetHawk]

every single giants fan knew that they needed lots of help with the o-line and running game this past offseason. they did not address it at all. that, combined with the D regressing a bit and the irreplaceable injuries to the receivers have led to a perfect storm of suck.

Seahawks and broncos in the off season needed OL help. Just very limited options. Draft wasn't great with OL at the tackle position.

Best OL signing was whitworth from Cincy going to the rams. That's the guy everyone should have targeted. 35 but still good enough for a 1-2 run.

I was surprised that Seattle didn't go all in for him and ultimately settled on joekel.

No point in firing a coach just to promote one of the coordinators.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Source: Arkansas fires AD Long; Bielema next?

Arkansas athletic director Jeff Long has been fired, a source told ESPN, confirming multiple reports.

The school's dismissal of Long likely signals football coach Bret Bielema is on his way out, too.

 

[Voight]

Fast forward 2 years later, Reese spends money on defense, McAdoo gets promoted to HC...offense can’t even bust 30 points while the defense is playing lights now.

This year, defense is getting sick and tired of McAdoo’s bull****...offense looks like crap, players revolting/quitting, have not addressed the line backers spots and offensive line is TRASH.

Enough, Reese/McAdoo have to go.

They did get screwed with the OBJ injury but its still Reese fault he never cared to improve the OL or get some help in the running game. Once Beckham Jr went down they had no good RB they could turn to (unlike Jax who had Fournette to focus around after Robinson was hurt).

Yeah, there’s a lot of that going on with the old crusty reporters in Celeveland. They see this as proof analytics don’t work (despite the fact teams like the Patriots use a lot of analytics). They also think this proves you need a football guy as GM (despite the fact the Browns have plowed through something like ten football guys as GMs since coming back).

Podesta isn't the GM tho.

They should really take a long hard look at Scot McCloughan, give him full autonomy and let him work his magic.

Seahawks and broncos in the off season needed OL help. Just very limited options. Draft wasn't great with OL at the tackle position.

Best OL signing was whitworth from Cincy going to the rams. That's the guy everyone should have targeted. 35 but still good enough for a 1-2 run.

I was surprised that Seattle didn't go all in for him and ultimately settled on joekel.

No point in firing a coach just to promote one of the coordinators.

Seahawks at least went out and traded assets for Richardson & Brown to improve their OL.