NCAA: 2017-18 Playoff/New Years Six Watch

[SpookyTsuki]

You really think Ohio State gets in? They have 1 good win on their record, PSU who gave that game away. But they have 2 horrible loses. Beating Michigan isn't going to be impressive as it will be their 4th loss and they aren't good, Michigan State is average at best. Beating Wisconsin is good but at some point you have to look at those loses and say there's no way a team loses 31 is one of the 4 best.

Yeah it’s what the commitee will do. The commitee is trash. Expand the playoffs to 8. Let the computers decide

Only reason we got the playoffs is cause 2 sec teams were in the bcs. So now we let a group of humans pick and 2 sec teams would have happened (and it still could). Time to expand let the chips fall where they may with computers picking

Ucf would probably make it under computers

 

[HoseEmDown]

Yeah it’s what the commitee will do. The commitee is trash. Expand the playoffs to 8. Let the computers decide

Only reason we got the playoffs is cause 2 sec teams were in the bcs. So now we let a group of humans pick and 2 sec teams would have happened (and it still could). Time to expand let the chips fall where they may with computers picking

Ucf would probably make it under computers

Under the old BCS we'd be ranked higher, the computers like us. Thought actual humans who watch games could see that we are really good but they probably aren't even watching us play. The schedule part they talk about with us is BS, it isn't that bad and not that far off some teams ahead of us. It wasn't the kids fault the GT game had to be cancelled yet they're penalizing them because they don't have the extra P5 win that could of come from that which would boost the SOS.

I'm sure we wouldn't be undefeated if we played the same schedule as some teams ahead of us but we won't ever know that. What we know is that we've taken care of business with the schedule we had and have done it convincingly. How the committee justifies having an undefeated team so far back of the top 4 just reeks of P5 bias.

 

[Kyle McMahon]

You really think Ohio State gets in? They have 1 good win on their record, PSU who gave that game away. But they have 2 horrible loses. Beating Michigan isn't going to be impressive as it will be their 4th loss and they aren't good, Michigan State is average at best. Beating Wisconsin is good but at some point you have to look at those loses and say there's no way a team loses 31 is one of the 4 best.

You're making the big assumption that the committee will examine Ohio State's resume with a critical and unbiased eye. Much more likely, the thought process will be "is there any way we can shoe-horn Ohio St into the playoffs?" Same applies to Notre Dame (and Alabama if they lose). The committee has shown that historical significance of a program and the TV ratings it will generate are priority #1. What actually happened on the football field comes second.

 

[Cody Webster]

What if Miami loses today then beats Clemson? Lol

 

[rangerssharks414]

What if Miami loses today then beats Clemson? Lol

That would be tough. I still think they'd get in, but the committee loves punishing teams that lose late in the year.

 

[HoseEmDown]

What if Miami loses today then beats Clemson? Lol

UCF gets the #4 seed in the playoffs.

 

[HoseEmDown]

A 3 loss Mississippi State just jumped undefeated UCF, I didn't think the CFP could be any more corrupt and rigged.

 

[rangerssharks414]

I still don't get how Oklahoma is 4th and behind Clemson. Miami jumped to #2.

 

[Taro Tsujimoto]

Clemson still way overrated. Them and Alabama don't deserve to be in the top 4 after playing creampuff FCS opponents last weekend (and with that being said, the NCAA needs to add a rule that if an FBS team wants to schedule an FCS team, they have to schedule the game for September).

A 3 loss Mississippi State just jumped undefeated UCF, I didn't think the CFP could be any more corrupt and rigged.

Power 5 bias is alive and well. Seriously, get rid of all this committee and computer crap, expand the field to 8 teams (all five Power 5 conference champions, the top Group of 5 champion, and two at-large teams), and let the teams decide who gets in on the field.

 

[HoseEmDown]

Clemson still way overrated. Them and Alabama don't deserve to be in the top 4 after playing creampuff FCS opponents last weekend (and with that being said, the NCAA needs to add a rule that if an FBS team wants to schedule an FCS team, they have to schedule the game for September).



Power 5 bias is alive and well. Seriously, get rid of all this committee and computer crap, expand the field to 8 teams (all five Power 5 conference champions, the top Group of 5 champion, and two at-large teams), and let the teams decide who gets in on the field.

The computers would be better, they actually like UCF. The G5 should just give up and drop down to FCS, if you're not P5 your worthless. UCF could be an average P5 team and lose 3 games and still be ranked higher, that's how bad this committee is.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Clemson is required by the state of South Carolina to play a small state school. Clemson has a $1.8 billion dollar impact on the state so they are obligated to cut checks to small schools in state. This year its The Citadel next year its Furman and in 2019 its Wofford.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

And UCF hasn't beat anyone worth a shit to be higher than 15.

 

[HoseEmDown]

And UCF hasn't beat anyone worth a **** to be higher than 15.

They beat Memphis who's ranked higher than Wisconsin's best win in Northwestern.

 

[AdmiralsFan24]

They beat Memphis who's ranked higher than Wisconsin's best win in Northwestern.

UCF's second best win is against a 6-4 FIU team or a 6-4 Navy team. Wisconsin's second best win is an 8-3 Michigan team. UCF has beaten three teams that are 3-8 and an FCS team. They have only beaten five FBS teams that have 5 or more wins. Even with Wisconsin's "weak schedule" they've beaten seven teams that have 5 or more wins.

 

[HoseEmDown]

UCF's second best win is against a 6-4 FIU team or a 6-4 Navy team. Wisconsin's second best win is an 8-3 Michigan team. UCF has beaten three teams that are 3-8 and an FCS team. They have only beaten five FBS teams that have 5 or more wins. Even with Wisconsin's "weak schedule" they've beaten seven teams that have 5 or more wins.

Wisconsin's opponents combined record is 59-63, UCF is 53-55, so neither schedule is strong. UCF plays USF this weak who's 9-1 so that win would be better than Michigan who's about to have their 4th loss. Wisconsin should not be almost 10 spots ahead of UCF.

 

[AdmiralsFan24]

Wisconsin's opponents combined record is 59-63, UCF is 53-55, so neither schedule is strong. UCF plays USF this weak who's 9-1 so that win would be better than Michigan who's about to have their 4th loss. Wisconsin should not be almost 10 spots ahead of UCF.

There is a difference between being 3-8 in the Big Ten and 3-8 in the AAC. Sorry but those are the facts. I mean you look at a team like UConn. 3-8 record but their only 3 wins are against an FCS Holy Cross team by 7, a 4 point win against a 5-6 Temple team and a 6 point win against 2-9 Tulsa. UConn plays a Big Ten schedule and they're likely winless.

Now look at Iowa. 6-5 record that would put them 7th in the Big Ten if there were no divisions. This is a team that beat Iowa State that is 7-4 with a road win against Oklahoma and a home win against TCU. Their 4 losses have come against Iowa, Texas, West Virginia and Oklahoma State by a combined 24 points. They beat Ohio State by 31. They beat pretty decent Wyoming and North Texas teams by an average of 19 points. Their only 3 losses until they played Wisconsin were at home on the final play against Penn State, a 7 point road loss to #16 Michigan State and a 7 point OT road loss to #22 Northwestern. Three losses to ranked teams by a combined 16 points. Four losses to Purdue, Penn State, Michigan State and Northwestern by a combined 25 points. Wisconsin beat them by 24 and held them to 66 yards for the game.

Who has Michigan lost to? A 4 point loss at home to #16 Michigan State, a blowout at Penn State and a 14 point loss at Wisconsin. They don't have any good wins but none of their losses are terrible considering who they played and where they played them.

 

[HoseEmDown]

There is a difference between being 3-8 in the Big Ten and 3-8 in the AAC. Sorry but those are the facts. I mean you look at a team like UConn. 3-8 record but their only 3 wins are against an FCS Holy Cross team by 7, a 4 point win against a 5-6 Temple team and a 6 point win against 2-9 Tulsa. UConn plays a Big Ten schedule and they're likely winless.

Now look at Iowa. 6-5 record that would put them 7th in the Big Ten if there were no divisions. This is a team that beat Iowa State that is 7-4 with a road win against Oklahoma and a home win against TCU. Their 4 losses have come against Iowa, Texas, West Virginia and Oklahoma State by a combined 24 points. They beat Ohio State by 31. They beat pretty decent Wyoming and North Texas teams by an average of 19 points. Their only 3 losses until they played Wisconsin were at home on the final play against Penn State, a 7 point road loss to #16 Michigan State and a 7 point OT road loss to #22 Northwestern. Three losses to ranked teams by a combined 16 points. Four losses to Purdue, Penn State, Michigan State and Northwestern by a combined 25 points. Wisconsin beat them by 24 and held them to 66 yards for the game.

Who has Michigan lost to? A 4 point loss at home to #16 Michigan State, a blowout at Penn State and a 14 point loss at Wisconsin. They don't have any good wins but none of their losses are terrible considering who they played and where they played them.

UConn is terrible, big deal, Illinois is terrible too with their whole 2 victories. Both conferences have bottom feeders.

You keep talking about all these loses like they're impressive, I could list all the loses AAC schools have to big name programs too but that doesn't mean jack. Who has the Big 10 beating in the top 25 out of conference? Nobody, just like the AAC. But the thing is the Big 10 is a power 5 conference while the AAC isn't, it's fine if we don't win any but looks really bad on you if you don't.

The Big 10 is a mediocre conference this year, they haven't won any big games and their best team is behind two 1 loss teams. When you have to try to prove your better than the AAC, not the ACC you don't belong in the playoffs.

 

[AdmiralsFan24]

I'm not trying to make an argument that the Big Ten is better than the AAC because I know it's better than the AAC.

As far as it being worse than the ACC, are we sure that it is? Assume no divisions and place the teams in matchups by place in the standings and these are the matchups you get.

Illinois vs North Carolina
Maryland vs Syracuse
Rutgers vs Pittsburgh
Nebraska vs Florida State
Minnesota vs Duke
Indiana vs Georgia Tech
Purdue vs Boston College
Iowa vs Virginia
Michigan vs Louisville
Northwestern vs Wake Forest
Michigan State vs North Carolina State
Penn State vs Virginia Tech
Ohio State vs Clemson
Wisconsin vs Miami

You play those 14 matchups on neutral fields and who wins? It's certainly not a blowout either way. I think the top 2 in the conference favors the ACC slightly, 3-8 favors the Big Ten and 9-14 favors the ACC.

 

[HoseEmDown]

I'm not trying to make an argument that the Big Ten is better than the AAC because I know it's better than the AAC.

As far as it being worse than the ACC, are we sure that it is? Assume no divisions and place the teams in matchups by place in the standings and these are the matchups you get.

Illinois vs North Carolina
Maryland vs Syracuse
Rutgers vs Pittsburgh
Nebraska vs Florida State
Minnesota vs Duke
Indiana vs Georgia Tech
Purdue vs Boston College
Iowa vs Virginia
Michigan vs Louisville
Northwestern vs Wake Forest
Michigan State vs North Carolina State
Penn State vs Virginia Tech
Ohio State vs Clemson
Wisconsin vs Miami

You play those 14 matchups on neutral fields and who wins? It's certainly not a blowout either way. I think the top 2 in the conference favors the ACC slightly, 3-8 favors the Big Ten and 9-14 favors the ACC.

On a neutral field I think UCF can beat any team in the Big 10/ACC, Memphis could probably beat everyone after the top 4 same with USF, Houston after the top 8, Navy the top 10. I don't see there being a huge difference in the top of the AAC and those other conferences this year. The mid to bottom sucks for us but not the top.

 

[HoseEmDown]

Alabama's best win just lost and now it's a 3 loss LSU who have beaten 1 team with a record above .500. Hopefully Texas A&M beats them and knocks them out of the rankings so Alabama has no wins over ranked teams. Love to see how the committee justifies keeping them at #1. UCF's schedule isn't looking so bad compared to theirs now.

 

[rangerssharks414]

Alabama's best win just lost and now it's a 3 loss LSU who have beaten 1 team with a record above .500. Hopefully Texas A&M beats them and knocks them out of the rankings so Alabama has no wins over ranked teams. Love to see how the committee justifies keeping them at #1. UCF's schedule isn't looking so bad compared to theirs now.

They would have a win over Auburn if they win tomorrow, which would be better than any UCF win.

 

[HoseEmDown]

They would have a win over Auburn if they win tomorrow, which would be better than any UCF win.

A 3 loss Auburn will drop in the polls and be ranked close to a 1 loss Memphis, so a similar ranked opponent.

 

[rangerssharks414]

How far does Miami fall? I honestly think they’re done even if they beat Clemson. The committee loves factoring in when you lose.

 

[Cody Webster]

This UCF homering is a great read.

Miami probably drops to 8 or 9. Will probably break up Penn State and Ohio State

Id love to see Miami beat Clemson. Would have to assume that'd shut out the ACC.

 

[HoseEmDown]

This UCF homering is a great read.

Miami probably drops to 8 or 9. Will probably break up Penn State and Ohio State

Id love to see Miami beat Clemson. Would have to assume that'd shut out the ACC.

How bout you turn on the game and watch them for yourself?