Oh yes here we go, Leaf fans are overrating Dermot blah, blah, blah. Is there anyone not overrated on the Leafs? And why are they not a bottom 5 team with all this overrated talent?The way people went on about him, you'd think he was going to be the next Pronger, Lidstrom, Dermott, etc.
He has been the best Leaf player in the playoffs.Marner has been so damn good in these playoffs. He is physical and plays much bigger than his size. He is the real deal.
Oh yes here we go, Leaf fans are overrating Dermot blah, blah, blah. Is there anyone not overrated on the Leafs? And why are they not a bottom 5 team with all this overrated talent?
How is that theory working with Rielly and Marner?
Why don't you explain how it was exposed?I love Mitch Marner. Not a huge fan of Rielly, but I think he's a top pairing defenseman. But none of that matters, because the only person's hypocrisy that was exposed here was your own.
Or he might be the next Yakupov.Marner might even be the best player of all time.
Why do you have to be a clown about it ? Marner is amazing, how about we leave it at that ?Marner might even be the best player of all time.
Personally, I think everybody's top 8 should include McDavid, Eichel, Barzal, Marner, Rantanen, Boeser, Provorov, and Werenski in some order.
McDavid 1st of course, then arguments to be made for Eichel/Barzal/Provorov for the #2 spot, then the other four in whatever order you prefer them.
That's fair for the top 8. I'd say Aho, Connor, Konecny and Hanfin are in the next group, but I wouldn't be surprised to see one or more of those 4 supplant one of the top 8 at some point down the road.
Why don't you explain how it was exposed?
Aho should be #9 on a majority of lists for now, then Connor. Hanifin might start climbing up depending on how he plays. Carolina sure is lucky to get 2 top-12 talents in such a deep draft, and Aho all the way in the 2nd without having to move up or anything.
I am really glad you got 2 likes for this, but when the hell did I say that?Oh, I don't know, one minute you're calling people out for claiming that a Leafs fan is overrating Dermott when he ranks him ahead of Hanifin, Aho, Connor, Konecny, etc., and then the next you're agreeing with another fan that HF tends to overrate young defensemen when he's arguing that Provorov might be overrated, all in the same damned thread.
I am really glad you got 2 likes for this, but when the hell did I say that?
It is too early to know for sure how a redraft shou.d go especially given that this draft looks so strong. Rankings 2-8 are so subjective at this point, because of the strength of talent that has emerged. Taking into account what we have seen so far and future projection my top 15 in a redraft would be:
1 McDavid
2 Marner
3 Eichel
4 Barzal
5 Provorov
6 Rantanen
7 Boeser
8 Werenski
9 Dermott
10 Hanifin
11 Aho
12 Connor
13 Chabot
14 Konecny
15 Carlo
So far I don't think I have seen anyone with the same top 8 and often the rankings of the players in the various poster's top 8s have ranged widely showing the wealth of talent and how close those prospects are.
Dermott over Aho hahaha
Dermott over Connor hahahaha
Dermott over Konecny hahaha
But best of all.. Dermott over Hanifin
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHhahahahahahahHhAhHhahaH HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Here we go the haters are bringing out the "LOL Leaf Fans are Overrating Dermott" idea. Here we go again...
I actually do not think Dernott is the real deal. All stats and analytical info tells me he is.
I don't want to downplay Provorov but I find this board overrates under 23 year old defensemen for what they might be 3-4 years from now. I wouldn't be surprised if a few years from now he is rated the 2nd best player this draft but as for now I am not sure he even cracks top 5 best players(so far)
Please see Tyler Myers as an example.
That's the first one that comes to mind, Ekblad after his first season is another. As I pointed out I seen it with OEL. Brodin probably would fit the bill as well
The hype Myers got on here was ridiculous.
The way people went on about him, you'd think he was going to be the next Pronger, Lidstrom, Dermott, etc.
DeBrusk has to go lower now with his performance this year and his playoffs too date. Guy has a high motor on both ends of the ice scored yesterday and had 7 hits. Two goals so far and his speed is giving the Leafs problems.
Tbh I agree with this but I don't how Rantanen can be on the third tier with 84pts in 81gp...I will update my Draft Rankings a little later.
But for me right now.
King of the Mountain
1. McDavid
Tier 2
Eichel
Barzal
Provorov
Tier 3
Rantanen
Werenski
Boeser
Tier 4
Marner
Connor
Konecny
Aho
It's still wrong to say he'd go top 3 in a redraft.So........Marner is playing pretty well in the playoffs against a physical Bruins team and the Bergeron line, with 8 pts and in 6 gp and some solid defensive play. This is especially impressive with the playoffs being much tighter hockey with less room to operate.
Perhaps he is a lot closer to being the 2nd best player in this draft, than the 8th where many had him, and were cutting up those of us that had him 2nd or 3rd.
Is it wrong though?It's still wrong to say he'd go top 3 in a redraft.