Prospect Info: 2015-16 Rangers Prospects Thread Part II (Player Stats in Post #1; Updated 2.19.16)

[Revel]

Zubov in the 5th. Nemchinov in the 12th.

 

[Roo Returns]

Back to this thread; why is Kovacs not listed as a top-10 Rangers prospect in any of the lists? I think he's a safer bet to be an NHL player than many of these dudes.

 

[Ail]

Definitely my favorite pick of the past few drafts. Scouting has been hitting some home-runs on the falling talent gambles.

 

[McDonagh27]

Definitely my favorite pick of the past few drafts. Scouting has been hitting some home-runs on the falling talent gambles.

Saarela, Butcher, Duke... who needs first rounders?

 

[RangerBoy]

Saarela had an issue with a coach in Finland. People bring up the injuries but he hasn't missed many games. I read that stuff about the coach in a draft preview article from last June. Duclair had an issue with Roy and a high ankle sprain. Saarela was really good in the U18 for Finland last spring but he still went late in the 3rd.

 

[FLYLine27*]

Saarela had an issue with a coach in Finland. People bring up the injuries but he hasn't missed many games. I read that stuff about the coach in a draft preview article from last June. Duclair had an issue with Roy and a high ankle sprain. Saarela was really good in the U18 for Finland last spring but he still went late in the 3rd.

The year before his draft year he only played 29 games because of the concussion.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Saarela, Butcher, Duke... who needs first rounders?

I am okay with us trading away 1st rounders if we keep drafting these gems in the 3rd, but why are we then trading those gems away as well?

 

[Miamipuck]

I am okay with us trading away 1st rounders if we keep drafting these gems in the 3rd, but why are we then trading those gems away as well?

Contemplate this: If they're so good at finding third round gems, think about what they can do with 1st rounders......lol Lets keep'em man.

Who knows it might work out better than trading #1's and top prospects for a #1 PMD and using him as a #5 option. (shaking my head over Yandle's usage by AV)

 

[Mac n Gs]

I'd rather not play with fire hoping that a possible first-round talent slipped to the third round every year. We've been pretty lucky these past few years with how our mid-round picks have turned out.

 

[RangerBoy]

The year before his draft year he only played 29 games because of the concussion.

How many games did he miss in 14-15?

 

[FLYLine27*]

How many games did he miss in 14-15?

Did the 13-14 season not count toward his development? He was playing catch up in the 14-15 season.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Contemplate this: If they're so good at finding third round gems, think about what they can do with 1st rounders......lol Lets keep'em man.

Who knows it might work out better than trading #1's and top prospects for a #1 PMD and using him as a #5 option. (shaking my head over Yandle's usage by AV)

I agree that we should keep the prospects, but the playing field is more even with first round picks, scouting doesn't have to be as good. You certainly don't need to be a scout to know McDavid is good. Look at how bad Edmonton has scouted in recent seasons, they had picked terribly after the first round prior to 2015, but they hit on Draisaitl, Hall, RNH because it doesn't take great scouting to know they were going to be very good NHL players.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I'd rather not play with fire hoping that a possible first-round talent slipped to the third round every year. We've been pretty lucky these past few years with how our mid-round picks have turned out.

It happens every year though, a potential first round talent going into the season slips out of the first two rounds. It usually happens with multiple prospects. Some teams don't have the confidence in their scouts to trust them that these players will bounce back, and some teams prefer to pick players on the up rather than players on the down.

 

[Mac n Gs]

It happens every year though, a potential first round talent going into the season slips out of the first two rounds. It usually happens with multiple prospects. Some teams don't have the confidence in their scouts to trust them that these players will bounce back, and some teams prefer to pick players on the up rather than players on the down.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not opposed to this philosophy if we were trading off assets to garner extra mid-round picks. I just don't think constantly trading first round picks is a good idea if you're basing those decisions on being able to possibly find a good player in the 3rd or 4th.

 

[Revel]

Kovacs netted one today.

 

[nyr2k2]

Halverson continued his terrific play, stopping 36 of 37 for the W. He finally got the GAA under 3 and his SV% is up to .908.

 

[NYR Viper]

Halverson continued his terrific play, stopping 36 of 37 for the W. He finally got the GAA under 3 and his SV% is up to .908.

Really strong second half for him. Great to see

 

[kovazub94]

Halverson continued his terrific play, stopping 36 of 37 for the W. He finally got the GAA under 3 and his SV% is up to .908.

His SV% since returning from WJC got to be in .920+ range while GAA at 2.50 or lower, no? That turnament does wonders for prospects' development.

 

[Ail]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not opposed to this philosophy if we were trading off assets to garner extra mid-round picks. I just don't think constantly trading first round picks is a good idea if you're basing those decisions on being able to possibly find a good player in the 3rd or 4th.

Yeah to be honest I would rather have 2 2nds and 2 3rds than 1 first, unless we are talking top-5

 

[Edge]

His SV% since returning from WJC got to be in .920+ range while GAA at 2.50 or lower, no? That turnament does wonders for prospects' development.

He's certainly been playing up to his talent level.

However, his earlier struggles, if taken with the right approach, can be far more valuable to his development than if he picked up right where he left off after last season.

 

[Edge]

Yeah to be honest I would rather have 2 2nds and 2 3rds than 1 first, unless we are talking top-5

I think the Rangers have done very well with trying to find talent in the second and third rounds, but long-term nothing beats having those first round picks.That's where your best odds of finding talent and higher-end talent exists.

But you do raise an interesting point as to how much a first round pick is worth. Hypothetically, four picks in the top 90 might be worth one pick in the top 30, depending on where all the picks are.

 

[NYR Viper]

I know this will be a stupid comment, but I would rather a 1st and multiple picks in the 2nd/3rd.

Not having a 1st, to me, means taking a 'safer' player in the 2nd round. Teams must get players out of a NHL draft.

 

[kovazub94]

He's certainly been playing up to his talent level.

However, his earlier struggles, if taken with the right approach, can be far more valuable to his development than if he picked up right where he left off after last season.

I hear you and completely agree. I made a comment awhile ago in Buchnevich thread that his trade to SKA and subsequent adjustments (dealing with new linemates, limited ice time, different role, new city etc) are good for his overall development in the long run.

 

[Raspewtin]

I know this will be a stupid comment, but I would rather a 1st and multiple picks in the 2nd/3rd.

Not having a 1st, to me, means taking a 'safer' player in the 2nd round. Teams must get players out of a NHL draft.

See: Gropp, Ryan.

 

[NYR Viper]

See: Gropp, Ryan.

That's exactly correct. The team needs to find a NHL player from each draft. Normally your first rounder is the safer bet and then you can swing in the later rounds.