cdavis*
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no, you didn't claim everything you said was fact. you didn't claim anything you said was fact. when some people responded with their opinion (he has intangibles for example), you shot them down for not having any facts. in response, i went to your "proof" or reasoning response and pointed out that you indeed didn't have facts that supported your arguments. you had facts, but none of them supported your position. only your opinion did. and i'd doing to you what you did to someone else. call them out for not having facts that support their argument.
you challenged them to do something you failed to do, then got pissed at them for doing what you did.
we have a misunderstanding here. i like latendresse. i want to resign him. where we disagree is you not wanting to resign condra. you not only do not want to sign him, you think he is a bad player, which is strange because most other people disagree with you. i'm not saying the majority is always right, but when you're discussing something with people that are just as knowledgeable as you, and observe the subject as much as you do, and you are in the minority for an opinion, you better be able to back it up. so far all you have is "condra is average at best at penalty killing." and "he's not that great of a defensive player". it's fine to say that, but you have an uphill battle that you need to bring the big guns for (ie you have to SHOW us that condra is not that great in those areas of his game, not just say he isn't).
condra isn't here to score, he's here to be an excellent defensive player and be an energy guy, and he is great in that roll. that is the paradigm. the onus is on you to prove otherwise.
WATCH HIM PLAY! He doesn't do anything on the PK at all! One person says he does and it catches on and then a bunch of parrots repeat it on every Sens board until everyone believes it. He just stands there in gingerbread man-stance hoping the puck hits him, he barely ever gets the puck out. If you're a hockey player and you say you aren't here to score, you are benched. That isn't an excuse for no contribution on the scoresheet whatsoever. He is the worst forward on the team, bar none [except Kassian- who actually has the tools to be a role (not roll) player]
How convenient, Condra isn't here to score! I wonder why when this happens when he gets a chance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm0RH37WRQg
He's not going to be a fixture here, he's going to go the way of Butler and Daugivins at some point (both of whom I'd likely pick over Condra any day).
Annnnd paradigm blah blah blah onus.