Speculation: Zucc out long-term - Top 2 line winger to Dallas?

[SI90]

Yup! Dude got a goal and a assist tonight. Zucc gelled like hell on that team tonight.

Damn that sucks.

 

[ATypicalCanadian]

Isn't there a Silfverberg extension already agreed upon and being signed post deadline?

 

[Magic Mittens]

Dallas still has the same team they've basically had all year plus Lovejoy. Benn is day to day, so they still should be able to hold there spot in the wild card race.

But, I wonder if this will force Nill to look for another trade. I dont see him trading anymore picks. Maybe something like a young roster player plus a prospect for a forward with term

 

[82Ninety42011]

Damn that's sad about Zucc Stars are not having a good year my goodness.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Just saying

They can trade a later pick with conditions attached that could allow them to transfer either the 19 or 20 pick to fulfill the trade once it's determined that those picks are not property of the Rangers. It shouldn't hamper their ability to make a deal. The 2020 pick is almost certainly not transferring anyways unless they REALLY like Zuccarello.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Dallas still has the same team they've basically had all year plus Lovejoy. Benn is day to day, so they still should be able to hold there spot in the wild card race.

But, I wonder if this will force Nill to look for another trade. I dont see him trading anymore picks. Maybe something like a young roster player plus a prospect for a forward with term

I don't think he could even if he wanted to, at least unless it was a late pick.

2019 1st - possibly NYR
2019 2nd - possibly NYR (one or the other, depends on Dallas reaching WCF)

2020 1st possibly NYR
2020 2nd - traded to Vegas for Methot
2020 3rd - possibly NYR (one or the other, depends on Dallas re-signing Zucc)

So his hands are pretty much tied there.

 

[405Exit]

Isn't there a Silfverberg extension already agreed upon and being signed post deadline?

That extension is out the window. Now we are talking real business. Dallas has to trade for someone with two of there key players out. They just traded for Zuccarello. Out 4 weeks and will likely miss playoffs with Benn and Zucc out

Anaheim is all ears on Silfverberg. Supply and demand my friends. Only so many available at this very minute.

Does Dallas want to push for playoffs? Or not? We have no problem taking some seconds.

 

[Kcb12345]

I doubt Nill will make any moves

 

[MagnumForce2]

Sabres will give you Sobotka for future considerations.

 

[405Exit]

I doubt Nill will make any moves

You just traded a huge deal for Zuccarello? If you don’t make playoffs because of that? That’s fire able. Nill is forced to make a trade with 2 key weapons injured now.

 

[Kcb12345]

You just traded a huge deal for Zuccarello? If you don’t make playoffs because of that? That’s fire able. Nill is forced to make a trade with 2 key weapons injured now.

They believe Benn will be back by Tuesday possibly for the next game. Nill will likely say the team is good enough to make it to the playoffs and stay in it until Zucc gets back. It's unfortunate but he's already announced he's done and I just don't think hes gonna change his mind

 

[405Exit]

They believe Benn will be back by Tuesday possibly for the next game. Nill will likely say the team is good enough to make it to the playoffs and stay in it until Zucc gets back. It's unfortunate but he's already announced he's done and I just don't think hes gonna change his mind

We’ll have to see. Zucc hasn’t even been analyzed in Dallas yet. He requires surgery. 4 weeks is a rough estimate is what I’m hearing on NHL Network.

Zucc should be diagnosed early tomorrow morning. And if it’s longer? I see Nill making a late 11 am pacific time trade for someone.

 

[Kcb12345]

We’ll have to see. Zucc hasn’t even been analyzed in Dallas yet. He requires surgery. 4 weeks is a rough estimate is what I’m hearing on NHL Network.

Zucc should be diagnosed early tomorrow morning. And if it’s longer? I see Nill making a late 11 am pacific time trade for someone.

I was kinda thinking that too. I assume they'll evaluate him in the morning to see how long exactly that he will be back. If he won't be back at all in the regular season, then maybe they do make a move

 

[Ragernschnapple]

I think it makes sense for Dallas to be interested in Boedker. He'd come dirt cheap.

Boedker to Dallas

Let's e5 this ****

Dallas has no interest in Boedker.
The Stars already have a bunch of over paid guys who can’t score.

 

[Ragernschnapple]

Jeff ‘you know ya want to’ Carter

That's some really bad luck. Major setback after arranging to go all-in... does Nill keep the pedal on the metal?

Johansson is available.

Dallas, time to give Los Angeles a call...

Hopefully Nill calls the Kings or Devils

 

[catters078]

Question..

Could the stars trade their first round pick this year with reverse conditions to the rangers trade?

Currently the Rangers get the 1st if the stars advance to the west finals or better.

Could the stars do a different conditional pick..something like...

If the stars miss the playoffs or fall in the 1st or 2nd round the other team gets a 1st round pick this year as the rangers wouldnt get it.

However, If the stars do advance to the west finals the other team get a 2019 2nd instead ( which would now be available) and a 2021 first?

I know this wont bappen
..but would it be legal to?

 

[Ragernschnapple]

Question..

Could the stars trade their first round pick this year with reverse conditions to the rangers trade?

Currently the Rangers get the 1st if the stars advance to the west finals or better.

Could the stars do a different conditional pick..something like...

If the stars miss the playoffs or fall in the 1st or 2nd round the other team gets a 1st round pick this year as the rangers wouldnt get it.

However, If the stars do advance to the west finals the other team get a 2019 2nd instead ( which would now be available) and a 2021 first?

I know this wont bappen
..but would it be legal to?

Yes, they can do that. At least that’s the way I understand it.

 

[LT]

They can, but I’d be rather surprised if a team accepted those terms in a trade.

 

[JThorne]

Ha! As a seasoned Stars fan, I'm already dead inside. Nice try, Satan.

Miroslav Satan made me dead inside a few times, also.

 

[WesMcCauley]

Just saying

They can trade for Kreider or Hayes and work it out with Gorton. Then Dallas could negotiate with both 1st rounders again without any conditions for example.

 

[WesMcCauley]

I don't think he could even if he wanted to, at least unless it was a late pick.

2019 1st - possibly NYR
2019 2nd - possibly NYR (one or the other, depends on Dallas reaching WCF)

2020 1st possibly NYR
2020 2nd - traded to Vegas for Methot
2020 3rd - possibly NYR (one or the other, depends on Dallas re-signing Zucc)

So his hands are pretty much tied there.

Not really, he has one move that he can make and that is make another trade with NYR for Hayes or Kreider.
Then they can discuss the conditions on the picks they already traded in the Zucc trade and for example guarantee that NYR get both 1st rounders if Dallas gets Hayes for example.

 

[KevinRedkey]

Vanek, Panik, or Chiasson could be cheap fillers for now. Maybe Brassard too?

 

[Reality Czech]

Buyer's remorse?

 

[Turning Mangiapanese]

I suppose we could trade them Stars legend James Neal for a 2nd rounder.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Dallas should just trade for Hayes, remove the conditions on the picks, and add a bit more.