silkyjohnson50
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The point wouldn' be to make the Wings a better team in the short run. The point is to concentrate resources toward a new young team.
I hear ya. The Edmonton model appears promising.
The point wouldn' be to make the Wings a better team in the short run. The point is to concentrate resources toward a new young team.
The point wouldn' be to make the Wings a better team in the short run. The point is to concentrate resources toward a new young team.
It was In last years paper, Last summer both Datsyuk and his agent said that Datsyuk would only play for Detroit or he would go home to Russia If he were asked for a trade It's dumb because Dats will never be trade In a million years any ways
The point wouldn' be to make the Wings a better team in the short run. The point is to concentrate resources toward a new young team.
I'll repeat this again...would we rather see our young guys (in uniform) perform and help push this team to the playoffs? Losing sucks...doing it on purpose is nonsense.
Funny thing is our younger players are the ones making the playoff push.
Nyquist/Tatar/Sheahan/Jurco/Dekeyeser/Glendening (terrible offensively, but he sure pisses the stars on the other team off)
The not funny thing is that these are the only players that are worth anything in a trade if you want to go for it.Funny thing is our younger players are the ones making the playoff push.
Nyquist/Tatar/Sheahan/Jurco/Dekeyeser
The not funny thing is that these are the only players that are worth anything in a trade if you want to go for it.
I'll repeat this again...would we rather see our young guys (in uniform) perform and help push this team to the playoffs? Losing sucks...doing it on purpose is nonsense.
with what Datsyuk showed, there is a hope. It will be a challenge, but I think reaching playoff is doable. I think we might have to deploy bit more defensive strategy and Howard needs to go on a roll like last playoff.
This is assuming Z is done for the season. I think he needs to be, since everyone now knows his back is busted and will try to crosscheck him from now on, he will need some sort of kevlar armour on his back. If he attempts to come back too quickly, he could done professionally to say the LEAST.
As for Weiss, I have no idea what he is capable of.
- Zetterberg's career is probably over
- Franzen's season is over
- The team should tank for a higher draft pick
- We should trade Datsyuk since the Wings have no chance at a Cup for at least 3-4 years
Did I hit all the highlights of this thread? This board cracks me up
I'm repulsed at anyone using the word 'tank' for the rest of this season. They're in playoff position when they resume and yes, it's quite possible they can fall out of contention and the streak may come to an end. But wouldn't we want to see the kids grow up and pick up for their fallen captain?
When did we become the Oilers? What's a lottery pick worth to us...especially when we have to wait a few years to see these kids make the show anyway. How many prospects have made the Wings under the age of 20 or 21? The guys in this uniform matter more right now and some of those are guys many of us have wanted to see play. Now we want to just throw the season away because they might miss the playoffs?
I can't disagree more with the motivation to fail. I'd feel different is this was a team that has been riding the old war horses...but this team is in contention with Bertuzzi and Cleary in the press box and Samuelsson in the AHL. If this team is going to succeed going forward, you'll want the Nyquists and Tatars to deliver this time of year. The reason why you have a streak like this...you bring these young players up in a winning environment.
I'll repeat this again...would we rather see our young guys (in uniform) perform and help push this team to the playoffs? Losing sucks...doing it on purpose is nonsense.
Actually the team is in contention (for the final playoff spot just so we are clear here) based on the awfulness of the entire East and a relatively decent start when the young players were mostly not there. On December 1st we were #3 in the East with 35 points out of 28 games. We are now #7 in the East with 64 points out of 58 games. That's 29 points out of 30 games.
The last 10 games the Wings have 12 points. That represents a stabilization of form but let's not pretend that shows this is a team that's going to play for the Cup. The Wings haven't exactly gained ground.
While I like our young players, it's very optimistic to think they represent a future Cup-winning core and even if they do, that future isn't for another 5-6 years and surely rather than paying expensive 34 and older veterans to take up roster spots in that timeframe we'd do better with building toward the future.
The point wouldn' be to make the Wings a better team in the short run. The point is to concentrate resources toward a new young team.
Damaging, even.
Exactly. What do losers do? Lose. The Oilers are a broken franchise. You can feed all the talent into that mix but you can't fix losing. Most of us are Lions fans...we know the drill. Sometimes you just need to gut it and get the right guys in there.
I wouldn't dare introduce losing to the young guys in this system. The Wings make the playoffs every year and contend for titles most years and their AHL club is becoming a winning program.
It almost appears that some of us here seem to get bored with just making the playoffs. This team has succeeded with little or no lottery level talent. They've won doing it the hard way.
How did Pavel, Hank and Kronwall become winners? They played with winners and learned from them. As of now, I don't see singular stars that could reach the level of Hank or Pavel in this next wave of talent...at worst, they'll be an assemble cast. There's time for one or more of them to emerge.
The talk of trading Pavel is about as bad as talking about tanking. You can't trade players of his caliber away and his work ethic should be kept around for the young players to learn from. I'd want Hank and Pavel to teach them to win but I'd also want them to learn how to work hard and play a complete game.
Exactly, the Wings haven't been top tier for a few years, but we see what is coming. Tanking very rarely works unless you get incredibly lucky, even then, tanking is very rarely intentional.
Not just that, trade Pavel for what? Draft picks and prospects? We have too many prospects as is, we do not have the space for all of our prospects, but we need more at the expense of our best players?
In my opinion, we need to be trading prospects, not trading for them. Maybe not during the season, but during the draft when teams are re-evaluating their prospects, get some established upper line talent and get consistent.