Offer him an 8 year contract and if he chooses not to sign it you trade him. You’ll get more than a 1 year rental that Seth with fetch us
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I don't think he's going to want to stick around for the rebuild.
I also think he's a better all-around player than Jones and is a guy you build around. You don't have 0.5+ ppg defensemen with puck-moving talent like him laying around anywhere.
I also think he's a better all-around player than Jones and is a guy you build around. You don't have 0.5+ ppg defensemen with puck-moving talent like him laying around anywhere.
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Not everyone is an opportunist so one can never know. Maybe but maybe not.
Z is not 'C" material though, neither is Cam for example
Fro
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Nothing wrong with that...malkin is all world and no one would think to put a C on him...kuch, Kane, Carts, so many talents
ThisIsMyAlibi
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I give it 9 months tops. Not trolling, it’s just how things are going right now. Gonna enjoy him as a player while I can.
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If Z is on his way out and the organization knows this, then it's time to move on him. His value isn't going to increase. With a 2 year lock-in for his new team, he should bring quite a haul.
Perhaps the Wings would part with 2 firsts and 2 seconds and a prospect or established player. It's cheaper than a offer sheet and given Zs ability and alleged preference for his home town, Stevie Y might bite-if he views him as his #1D.
The rebuild is on and there's not a reason in the world to keep Z now if the die is cast for his future departure.
Nanabijou
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As others have said, why would Stevie Y pay up? They are going to be bad for the next couple of years and those picks are going to be high. If Z wants to go there, they can sign him in 2 years and have him join the high picks they will have drafted.
I'm still holding out that Werenski will stay with the CBJ. But if you have to trade him, it will be to a contender looking to have him for a year or two.
I'm still holding out that Werenski will stay with the CBJ. But if you have to trade him, it will be to a contender looking to have him for a year or two.
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The same reason Chicago ponied up for Jones even though they were only competing with one other team.
teams value getting players in the organization as soon as possible. Steve would pay.
Nanabijou
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It is not that comparable. Hawks are trying to win again now while they are in Kane’s window. They are willing to sacrifice first rounders to do it. I don’t see Detroit being in a similar situation right now.
What is the Werenski to Detroit thing based on? Other than a rumor that Kypreos (!) spread? Please tell me this is something more than hopeful thinking from a lot of 14 year old boys in Michigan.
Regarding the potential offer you mentioned, not a chance. Yzerman just drafted his future top pair in Edvinsson and Seider, and Albert Johansson is another LD that looks like a top 4 guy in the making. Those guys all line up with their timetable. He is not going to pay through the nose to speed up his timetable.
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I don't know if you're aware of this, but Zach Werenski is from Detroit.
-- signed, Jack Roslovic is from Columbus
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Zach is an established top pair guy. The others are TBD's. If Jarmo was offered the equivalent of a Zach who was a C do you think he'd go for that or would he still wait for the 2 guys he just drafted?
What would Detroit be with Zach next seson? I would guess the answer is still not very good. That's the reason you don't give up your #1 pick for next year.
Again if Detroit could go get some picks via their cap space then I agree they may look at trading those for him, but no way do they trade next years #1 unless they somehow see a path to add a ton of talent and be ready to win next season. I just don't see it happening.
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I don't get your logic. Their #1 pick next year isn't going to help next year at all or probably the year after that.
They are in a rebuild like we are. Adding a player of Zach's caliber accelerates the process.
Again if Zach is a big deal then where do you think Detroit finishes with him next year? I don't think he makes a difference next year in winning and losing with their roster. That's my answer. Signing a very good offensive dman on an absolutely crappy team doesn't help. They would rather take another top 6 pick next year (with a great draft class) who they will have under cost control and still have a ton of cap room. Detroit knows they won't be good until 2023-24 at earliest (maybe competitive in 2022-23 but not good).
Detroit #1 picks in the next two drafts are like gold to them. The Jackets may or may not get their shit together, but the Wings will be bad. They are still gutted from the Holland era and won't recover for years.
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The comparisons aren’t perfect but I don’t think Yzerman would wait to bring in a player like Werenski. While they’re still rebuilding, they’ve got good pieces in place for their future. It would be like when Vancouver traded a future first round pick for JT Miller even though they had just finished in the bottom 10 in the standings.
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The price I suggested was steep. But the idea that Z couldn't fetch a 1st, 2nd and a decent player coming back doesn't hold water with me.
Someone will pay. If the trade is done soon, the return will be better than the Jones deal.
Nanabijou
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I don’t dispute that. I’m just saying it would absolutely shock me that Stevie Y would pony up over the next 2 years.
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Think Filip Hronek will be traded to Werenski straight up.
Columbus will lose the trade, but will get a decent asset.
Columbus will lose the trade, but will get a decent asset.
Add Rasmussen + a 3rd rounder and a handful of us would prolly be ok with it.
I’m not allowed to say anything negative about Werenski, but, I think he is nowhere near being a viable #1D at this point, and I’m not very confident in the idea that he ever will be.
Besides his quite poor skating that gets brushed off quite a bit, he is very good offensively. The problem?? He plays defense.
The questions about his effort level are also legitimate, IMO. I don’t think it’s quite on Jojo/Laine levels, but it seems VERY RARE for Werenski to seem to be playing truly at 100%, and there’s plenty of times when NOBODY can justify his defensive decisions or effort level on certain plays or shifts.
I can’t claim to have watched much of Hronek, Bean, or Boqvist early is their careers, but, they are perceived to be the same type of player that Werenski is I believe.
Could be reason to both stay away from Hronek and deal Werenski.
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