Yzerman's Mistakes so Far (In Your Own Eyes)

[Detroit Knights]

Draper one upped it with the Cleveland pick, lol.

hey hey hey watch it

 

[Bench]

I’d forgotten about the Raty fixation.

You'd really think he'd want us to forget.

 

[Gniwder]

You'd really think he'd want us to forget.

Why? I'd still take Horvat any day of the week, especially if that deal had been done before signing Copp. IIRC the Horvat rumors started during the summer.

What Raty becomes as a player is actually moot, because Raty & Hronek could have been traded for Horvat. It;s about asset management.

Picking Cleveland is about 100x worse than not picking Raty, that's why I'm over it. The fact that there are people here that will defend the pick is just hilarious homerism.

 

[RRhoads]

It is sometimes OK to say one has been wrong instead of digging a bigger hole.

 

[Euro Twins]

2023 draft was a mistake. Passing on a lot of skill for some 3rd pairing tough guys. Remind me in 5 years

Pellikka and Danielson have entered the chat
*Augustine struts in behind them

 

[Roomba With a Bauer]

Pellikka and Danielson have entered the chat
*Augustine struts in behind them

Between those three and Gibson, there is a good chance the 2023 draft is going to be regarded as our best draft in a long time.

 

[lilidk]

Pellikka and Danielson have entered the chat
*Augustine struts in behind them

Dvorsky almost year younger than Danielson, it was a mistake not to take him. Biggest reason ASP was available to Red Wings because it was very deep draft, some good players , Barlow, Moore, Stenberg, Ritchie, Edstrom, Musty were still available .
Next draft not going to be as good. Don't know if we should trade our first round pick 2024 for someone good.

 

[RED WINGS STOMP]

Dvorsky sucks. Give me Nate Dogg every time.

 

[schuelma24]

Dvorsky almost year younger than Danielson, it was a mistake not to take him. Biggest reason ASP was available to Red Wings because it was very deep draft, some good players , Barlow, Moore, Stenberg, Ritchie, Edstrom, Musty were still available .
Next draft not going to be as good. Don't know if we should trade our first round pick 2024 for someone good.

Based on his SHL experience, Dvorsky is an inferior prospect to Kasper. I'll take Nate.

 

[Euro Twins]

Dvorsky almost year younger than Danielson, it was a mistake not to take him. Biggest reason ASP was available to Red Wings because it was very deep draft, some good players , Barlow, Moore, Stenberg, Ritchie, Edstrom, Musty were still available .
Next draft not going to be as good. Don't know if we should trade our first round pick 2024 for someone good.

I'll call Yzerman and have him consult you next time about who to draft. You know since his track record is so bad if you ask this forum ...

 

[lilidk]

I'll call Yzerman and have him consult you next time about who to draft. You know since his track record is so bad if you ask this forum ...

When you draft 18 years old you have no idea how this will work out, Zadina is a good sample. I don't know which prospect will be better , but at the moment I prefer Other choice, I could have my own opinion, right?

 

[Roomba With a Bauer]

I am not sure Dvorsky projects as a center at the NHL level, but Danielson is pretty much 100% center, and his FO% is generally very, very good. Even if Dvorsky pots 10 more goals and 20 more points per season, I still put Danielson ahead.

 

[Euro Twins]

When you draft 18 years old you have no idea how this will work out, Zadina is a good sample. I don't know which prospect will be better , but at the moment I prefer Other choice, I could have my own opinion, right?

Yzerman drafted zadina?

Or did he draft Palat, point, vasy, and Kuch?

 

[lilidk]

Yzerman drafted zadina?

Or did he draft Palat, point, vasy, and Kuch?

He did excellent job in Tampa. Outside Seider in Detroit it's too early to tell. Zadina it's just a sample why you can't predict outcome when guy is only 18-19 yr old

 

[Euro Twins]

He did excellent job in Tampa. Outside Seider in Detroit it's too early to tell. Zadina it's just a sample why you can't predict outcome when guy is only 18-19 yr old

You used a bad example though. You could have said cal foote.

 

[Gniwder]

I'll call Yzerman and have him consult you next time about who to draft. You know since his track record is so bad if you ask this forum ...

Yzerman has yet to draft an NHLer outside of the first round since taking over the GM job..... so technically you can't do much worse other than screw up the first rounders..

 

[Dotter]

Yzerman has yet to draft an NHLer outside of the first round since taking over the GM job..... so technically you can't do much worse other than screw up the first rounders..

You are correct he doesn't have any active NHLer outside the 1st round....yet...

But he has excelled at drafting players in the 1st round. He won the entire 2019 draft for being brave enough to reach for Seider. Everyone else can bust, he still won that draft.

That said, there's players in that 19 draft who will make the NHL. Soderblom already has over 20 NHL games under his belt.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Yzerman has yet to draft an NHLer outside of the first round since taking over the GM job..... so technically you can't do much worse other than screw up the first rounders..

There’s what, 3 regular NHLers outside the first round in 2019? Barely that in 2020.

 

[JediOrderPizza]

To be fair anyone past the first round usually takes way longer to develop. This is what? Year 5? I mean hell Tuomisto was 2019 and is a rookie in the AHL. Johansson was also a 2019 2nd.

Yeah it would be nice to land a freak like Jason Robertson. But kinda hard to judge right now. If Augustine is a number 1 goalie? Hit. Johansson is a top 4 D? Hit.

 

[Pavels Dog]

To be fair anyone past the first round usually takes way longer to develop. This is what? Year 5? I mean hell Tuomisto was 2019 and is a rookie in the AHL. Johansson was also a 2019 2nd.

Yeah it would be nice to land a freak like Jason Robertson. But kinda hard to judge right now. If Augustine is a number 1 goalie? Hit. Johansson is a top 4 D? Hit.

Even Robertson was not an NHLer until d+4. Which for example would be the equivalent of Mazur making the roster next season.

 

[Euro Twins]

Yzerman has yet to draft an NHLer outside of the first round since taking over the GM job..... so technically you can't do much worse other than screw up the first rounders..

Oh grace is with your magical draft powers oh knowledgable one.

Because it's definitely not too early to make those statements

 

[Killerjas]

Pellikka and Danielson have entered the chat
*Augustine struts in behind them

Gibson and Cleveland left the chat

 

[izlez]

Why? I'd still take Horvat any day of the week, especially if that deal had been done before signing Copp. IIRC the Horvat rumors started during the summer.

What Raty becomes as a player is actually moot, because Raty & Hronek could have been traded for Horvat. It;s about asset management.

Picking Cleveland is about 100x worse than not picking Raty, that's why I'm over it. The fact that there are people here that will defend the pick is just hilarious homerism.

We all decided to just ignore this train wreck of a comment?

You know what... that's probably for the best

 

[Gniwder]

You are correct he doesn't have any active NHLer outside the 1st round....yet...

It was a bit tongue in cheek, lol. Oddly, I mentioned a few times that I like Seattle's pick more, and the person pointed out that their picks haven't done shit in the NHL... lol.

I would hope the number is higher than zero within a couple of years.

We all decided to just ignore this train wreck of a comment?

You know what... that's probably for the best

Nobody wants to defend the Cleveland pick anymore. He's not even playing, lol.

If anyone does, I'd be more than happy to wager. If Cleveland gets more than 100 NHL games before hitting 30 years old, I'll leave forever. If he doesn't then you have to take a 3 month break from posting, at the time of my choosing.

I'll remember. The search function is easy to use. Feel free to take my bet.

 

[izlez]

It was a bit tongue in cheek, lol. Oddly, I mentioned a few times that I like Seattle's pick more, and the person pointed out that their picks haven't done shit in the NHL... lol.

I would hope the number is higher than zero within a couple of years.



Nobody wants to defend the Cleveland pick anymore. He's not even playing, lol.

If anyone does, I'd be more than happy to wager. If Cleveland gets more than 100 NHL games before hitting 30 years old, I'll leave forever. If he doesn't then you have to take a 3 month break from posting, at the time of my choosing.

I'll remember. The search function is easy to use. Feel free to take my bet.

It's more the fact that you've convinced yourself Raty was a good pick even if he fails miserably