Yzerman's Mistakes so Far (In Your Own Eyes)

[RED SAVAGE STAN]

Keeping trash too long and letting all those 10 goal games hurt the soul of the team and force him to make another mistake by start exiting the rebuild too early.

Cossa over Wallstedt

And biggest mistake for me personally is exiting the rebuild to early..... Look at all the high end talent on Colorado and Tampa. Bedard or Michkov would do way more to our goal of another 25 year run than the moral victory of being a low tier bubble team in 2023.

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[Ulysses31]

Keeping trash too long and letting all those 10 goal games hurt the soul of the team and force him to make another mistake by start exiting the rebuild too early.

Cossa over Wallstedt

And biggest mistake for me personally is exiting the rebuild to early..... Look at all the high end talent on Colorado and Tampa. Bedard or Michkov would do way more to our goal of another 25 year run than the moral victory of being a low tier bubble team in 2023.

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I would have kept the picks to trade up and swung on cossa/stankoven/wallstat/ratu depending if/who available.

I expected SY to be more conservative but came out swinging at free agency.

Overall obv. cant say for certain these were mistakes at least until a few more years have passed

 

[Macoun]

I’m still not a fan of the Fabbri extension. Wouldn’t necessarily call it a mistake but letting him hit free agency was ok by me.

 

[RED SAVAGE STAN]

I’m still not a fan of the Fabbri extension. Wouldn’t necessarily call it a mistake but letting him hit free agency was ok by me.

Agree but he could still flip him for an asset...

Edit: just checked fabbri cap hit, though he was 3 or 3.5 and then saw the 4m. Thats an anchor in this current environment. I'd put that in the mistake column for sure lol....

 

[jkutswings]

I personally would have drafted Wallstedt instead of Cossa. But I don't see how that can be considered a mistake when we still have no idea how either player will perform in the NHL.

For a mistake, I'd say that Leddy worked out very poorly, even if I agreed with the move at the time.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Only two significant things I've not really liked so far:

- Cossa over Wallstedt
- Not giving Berggren a call-up

I see the reasoning for both but I would have argued the other way on those cases if I was in the room with Yzerman.

 

[Henkka]

Keeping trash too long

And biggest mistake for me personally is exiting the rebuild to early..... Look at all the high end talent on Colorado and Tampa. Bedard or Michkov would do way more to our goal of another 25 year run than the moral victory of being a low tier bubble team in 2023.

Either Bedard or Michkov isn't a quarantee.

It's the biggest mistake on your thread start. Dreaming about these, with low probablities to get either.

It's quite funny that you say "keeping trash too long" is a mistake and quess what, you should "keep trash even longer" to have abysmal team and be involved in Bedard/Michkov -hunt. Just like Hawks and Arizona are doing.

There's no logic.

 

[norrisnick]

Either Bedard or Michkov isn't a quarantee.

It's the biggest mistake on your thread start. Dreaming about these, with low probablities to get either.

It's quite funny that you say "keeping trash too long" is a mistake and quess what, you should "keep trash even longer" to have abysmal team and be involved in Bedard/Michkov -hunt. Just like Hawks and Arizona are doing.

There's no logic.

Bingo. Can't have it both ways. You can't complain about being trash too long and then say you're attempting to get good too fast.

 

[SCD]

Keeping trash too long and letting all those 10 goal games hurt the soul of the team and force him to make another mistake by start exiting the rebuild too early.

Cossa over Wallstedt

And biggest mistake for me personally is exiting the rebuild to early..... Look at all the high end talent on Colorado and Tampa. Bedard or Michkov would do way more to our goal of another 25 year run than the moral victory of being a low tier bubble team in 2023.

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1) Gives way too much information about strategy at pressers.
2) He failed to sign AA to an eight year bonus laden contract.

Seriously, you know it is late summer when threads like this get started. People can nit-pick anything, and yes Yzerman isn't perfect. However, I would not wish to have any other GM running this franchise.

 

[lhsgolf19]

I still can’t believe people are saying the Cossa thing right now

Neither has played 1 min as a pro in North America

Let it play out my god lol

 

[TheOtherOne]

So in your mind two of Yzerman's mistakes are:

Keeping trash too long

(not making the team better), and

start exiting the rebuild too early.

(making the team better).

 

[Ishad]

Imagine thinking we would have lottery luck or be able to out-tank Chicago or Arizona this year.

 

[Run the Jewels]

Broadly speaking, I am not sure how good our North American scouting is under Yzerman. It may be better than under Holland, but that's a really low bar. We've had some success, but will we draft elite players out of NA like we have in Europe?

I don't get too worked up about individual deals given where we are right now. Contracts are going to become more important as high quality players start getting bigger contracts. So I am waiting to see how the Larkin and Bertuzzi deals play out.

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

Keeping trash too long and letting all those 10 goal games hurt the soul of the team and force him to make another mistake by start exiting the rebuild too early.

Cossa over Wallstedt

And biggest mistake for me personally is exiting the rebuild to early..... Look at all the high end talent on Colorado and Tampa. Bedard or Michkov would do way more to our goal of another 25 year run than the moral victory of being a low tier bubble team in 2023.

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No.

 

[RED SAVAGE STAN]

YOU CAN CHANGE COACHES AND STILL CONTINUE TO BE IN A REBUILD ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE LOL

 

[Frk It]

Broadly speaking, I am not sure how good our North American scouting is under Yzerman. It may be better than under Holland, but that's a really low bar. We've had some success, but will we draft elite players out of NA like we have in Europe?

We have used our top pick on a Euro player 4 years in a row.

You shouldn't expect us to draft elite players out of NA like we have with Europe until we spend a high pick on a player from NA.

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

Agree but he could still flip him for an asset...

Edit: just checked fabbri cap hit, though he was 3 or 3.5 and then saw the 4m. Thats an anchor in this current environment. I'd put that in the mistake column for sure lol....

I love how 3.5m would be fine but 4m is an anchor... on a team that currently has 8m in cap space and damn near everyone on the roster on short term deals. Maybe next time don't just create an account to troll because you're bored at 4am.

 

[Realgud]

I don't see any egregious mistake. Only thing I would have liked was giving Berggren some time in the NHL. Judging draft picks is just so wrong for now.

 

[SoupNazi]

So in your mind two of Yzerman's mistakes are:

(not making the team better), and

(making the team better).

Mind = blown

How do we keep tanking without trash?

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

Instead of signing UFAs, I would have gone on a bad contract trading spree. Monahan, etc. Although I wouldn't have gone for that 2025 1st rounder nonsense.

 

[lilidk]

Definitely he is and was making mistakes , but it's hard to say now, I need couple more years to see and understand that

 

[ricky0034]

how do so many people not realize that "trash" is clearly being used as a nickname for Blashill in the op after how long he was here and how many people called him things like "trashill" over the years?

 

[jaster]

If I had started a poll yesterday that asked, "What are the odds that a thread started at 4am in August would have a reasonable amount of coherence to its argument?" ....what do ya'll think the results would have been?

Anyway, Yzerman's mistakes? None that we know of yet. Nothing I can think of has come back to bite the Wings in a meaningful way under Yzerman. Time may change that, but for now his PnL is way in the black.

 

[norrisnick]

how do so many people not realize that "trash" is clearly being used as a nickname for Blashill in the op after how long he was here and how many people called him things like "trashill" over the years?

Whoever the trash is... the argument that it should have been jettisoned sooner doesn't fit with the argument that Steve's trying to improve the team too soon. Like, make up your mind, dude.

 

[Frk It]

Interesting timing, considering this came out yesterday:

NHL front-office confidence rankings: How fans feel about every team

Which team ranked No. 1 and which team was last? NHL fans weigh in.

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3. Detroit Red Wings​

Last Year: 3rd