1) I agree they won't do it for "spare parts", that's why I included the 35th pick and Berggren. Berggren to me has the potential to becoming a contributing 2nd liner, and the 35th pick is basically a coin flip on becoming an NHL player. Svech could be labelled as a "spare part", but I still am not ready to fully write him off. This is a huge year for him.
2) The Jets know that he's going to walk next offseason, so they aren't going to get what they deem as fair value for him. They already have a D group, with others coming (Niku). The Jets and Trouba have had their disagreements in the past, and I just don't see any scenario where they resign him. So sure, maybe my package wasn't enough (I did acknowledge that in my original post, that they would probably want more), but for them to be expecting first round picks and grade A prospects just isn't realistic. And the bottom line is that if they are asking for that much, well then he will just walk next offseason and they won't get any assets in return.
1) Those are spare parts though. They'd be giving up a bona fide top pair dman and getting a bunch of 2nds in return. 2nd rd picks rarely turn into NHL players. Berggren may have the potential (which isn't tangible value) but he also just basically lost a season to injury and will have to recover from that.
2) I covered that in another post. Sign and trades are something that exist. If the media people are to be believed, then there is 'significant' interest in Trouba. Let's say for the sake of speculation that Detroit, NYR, Florida, Colorado, SJ, BOS, BUF are all wanting to make a push for him. But Trouba isn't willing to sign long term with BUF or SJ. That still leaves Detroit, NYR, Florida, Colorado, BOS to compete for him. The idea that Winnipeg will have to settle for peanuts is wrong IMO. Winnipeg's got no interest in selling Trouba as a 1yr rental (and getting corresponding value), nor do teams likely have much interest in buying him as a rental. It's in everyone's best interests to get Trouba to a place he'll go (which could very easily be several teams) and will sign long term with.
Well yea, that's my point. I don't want to move any grade A prospects. To say Lindstrom and Berggren and Svechnikov and Saarijarvi and Regula and Kuffner and Bowey and Pearson and Ehn and JDLR and Turgeon don't have any value isn't entirely true. Sure some of these guys are dime a dozen prospects, but they still have potential.
I just think it's extremely counter-productive to trade, say Hronek or AA or Mantha or McIsaac to get Trouba. You are just creating other holes while attempting to fill one.
Nobody's saying they don't have any value, but if those are the names you're considering to make a push for a #1dman you may as well just stay home.
As for moving the players in the second paragraph, those holes are much easier filled going forward than the big one which has plagued us for close to a decade. Manthas and AAs come along in FA much more frequently than Troubas do. I doubt Winnipeg would even be interested in McIsaac since he's a couple years away from being an NHL regular at best (if he even gets there).
I don't think Winnipeg would even want McIsaac as the main piece because he's still at least a couple years away, and we likely won't include Hronek
