Value of: Your Sniper Winger to NYI

[impaaaaaact]

Isles need to add firepower in a bad way - an LW to play with Barzal would make a huge difference IMO. Prospects that are non-starters for rentals are Noah Dobson, Oliver Wahlstrom, Bode Wilde, and Ilya Sorokin. All other prospects are available (Bellows, Iskhakov, Soderstrom, etc) as well as the 2019 1st Rounder (at this time, we don't have a 2019 2nd, 3rd, or 4th that we can deal). Who's available at the deadline?

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[JohnnyJacket13]

Panarin is available, but I would insist on Wahlstrom being part of the deal.

Panarin+Milano for Eberle+Wahlstrom+Conditional 1st (if Panarin re-signs)

 

[Just Linda]

I'd value Bode Wilde as the highest value of all those prospects today, isn't it crazy what a year can do?

Anyways, is a sniper needed to be a pp specialist or just a LW that can score?

 

[CREW99AW]

Panarin is available, but I would insist on Wahlstrom being part of the deal.

Panarin+Milano for Eberle+Wahlstrom+Conditional 1st (if Panarin re-signs)

not moving bluechippers for a rrental.
And zero interest in Milano

 

[Tkachukecheese]

Love these threads.... Give us stone or panarin and don't touch wahlstrom or Dobson... Those guys aren't even top 5 picks. I get you want to keep the youth... But if this thread is just you asking us for the lowest cost that you can aquire stone or panarin or duchene it isn't going to work. If those are non starters that's fine... They are guys that must be in for the other gms to even "start" negotiating.

 

[YP44]

he is a RW but JHS + conditional pick for Toffoli

 

[YP44]

Love these threads.... Give us stone or panarin and don't touch wahlstrom or Dobson... Those guys aren't even top 5 picks. I get you want to keep the youth... But if this thread is just you asking us for the lowest cost that you can aquire stone or panarin or duchene it isn't going to work. If those are non starters that's fine... They are guys that must be in for the other gms to even "start" negotiating.

Don't see where the OP asked for Stone or Panarin.

 

[Tkachukecheese]

Don't see where the OP asked for Stone or Panarin.

...... He wants a scoring winger... Besides stone panarin who is a scoring winger that's available.. you can play dumb we all know what this thread is about. How low can we get the top guys.

 

[YP44]

...... He wants a scoring winger... Besides stone panarin who is a scoring winger that's available.. you can play dumb we all know what this thread is about. How low can we get the top guys.

Nyquist comes straight to mind. Lots of wingers out there

edit: Hoffman should have been the first player for me to point out given all the the threads

 

[Tkachukecheese]

Here I'll play along until this thread goes pull panarin and stone mode.

Dzingle for your first.

Done

 

[Wanderson]

Love these threads.... Give us stone or panarin and don't touch wahlstrom or Dobson... Those guys aren't even top 5 picks. I get you want to keep the youth... But if this thread is just you asking us for the lowest cost that you can aquire stone or panarin or duchene it isn't going to work. If those are non starters that's fine... They are guys that must be in for the other gms to even "start" negotiating.

One full year of Erik Karlsson didn’t return a prospect like Wahlström or Dobson. What makes you think that half a year of Stone will give you better prospects in return?

 

[YP44]

Kovalchuk with retention is rumored to be around. I could see him waiving for the Islanders.

Honestly has not been bad in LA especially when used appropriately. Lou had him in New Jersey but I think that ownership is why he was there...Either way I could see it but have no clue what the return would look like

 

[cwede]

Zuccarello for Bellows, Pivonka and 2020 2d

 

[Phil120362]

You do realize they could "walk for nothing",right?

 

[WhatTheDuck]

While not a pure sniper, I think Silfverberg would fit well with Barzal and Bailey

 

[Tkachukecheese]

One full year of Erik Karlsson didn’t return a prospect like Wahlström or Dobson. What makes you think that half a year of Stone will give you better prospects in return?

Okay let's be very clear here. Everyone knows that what you get in the offseason... When teams have no idea if they are making the playoffs or how good their competition is or even where they stand is going to get you a much worse return. No one bids off each other.

Dorion had a deal with Vegas at the deadline that he should have took and didn't and that was STUPID. Deadline deals are ten times better then offseason deals you can't even compare them.

 

[YP44]

While not a pure sniper, I think Silfverberg would fit well with Barzal and Bailey

I could see it

 

[YP44]

Okay let's be very clear here. Everyone knows that what you get in the offseason... When teams have no idea if they are making the playoffs or how good their competition is or even where they stand is going to get you a much worse return. No one bids off each other.

Dorion had a deal with Vegas at the deadline that he should have took and didn't and that was STUPID. Deadline deals are ten times better then offseason deals you can't even compare them.

Sometimes this is very true. Teams get getty at the deadline and overpay.

 

[Tkachukecheese]

You do realize they could "walk for nothing",right?

I can guarantee you they don't walk for nothing. Here are some "facts"

Pastrnak just destroyed his thumb... They were already looking for a scoring winger before that happened. Boston is in big time.

Winnipeg has been terrible lately, already a contender and already directly linked to stone and Duchene

Calgary, yesterday lebrun came out and said tjay they are going to be all in on stone. They see the opportunity and can acctually sign him.

Apparently you islanders are looking for someone

Vegas has lost 7 of their last 10 games.... They are looking to make a big splash

Nashville hasnt been great either and their supposed top scorers aren't scoring besides arvy... They want more scoring

Stone and Duchene both belong to Ottawa... Dorion can bounce the offers around since he has both assets.

Panarin isn't getting traded for anything that doesn't net Columbus an impact player back... Aka huberdeau... Or trading panarin to a team then flipping the return they got to Ottawa for Duchene or stone

Duchene and stone have been absolutely lighting it up lately... Check their logs.

There is a reason the market is paralyzed...every team and their uncle are waiting to see if we sign these guys or if they are available. They will get massive hauls. I guarantee it.

 

[CREW99AW]

Love these threads.... Give us stone or panarin and don't touch wahlstrom or Dobson... Those guys aren't even top 5 picks. I get you want to keep the youth... But if this thread is just you asking us for the lowest cost that you can aquire stone or panarin or duchene it isn't going to work. If those are non starters that's fine... They are guys that must be in for the other gms to even "start" negotiating.

Where did any nyi poster above ask for Stone/Panarin. I did not realize there were only 2 wingers available who could boost the nyi top 6/ pp.

 

[Wanderson]

Sometimes this is very true. Teams get getty at the deadline and overpay.

Well, it’s a buyers market. Plenty of soon to be UFA scoring wingers on the market. The Islanders won’t give up their future for half a season of Panarin or Stone.

 

[Shootertooter]

Isles need to add firepower in a bad way - an LW to play with Barzal would make a huge difference IMO. Prospects that are non-starters for rentals are Noah Dobson, Oliver Wahlstrom, Bode Wilde, and Ilya Sorokin. All other prospects are available (Bellows, Iskhakov, Soderstrom, etc) as well as the 2019 1st Rounder (at this time, we don't have a 2019 2nd, 3rd, or 4th that we can deal). Who's available at the deadline?

Nonstarter for what you are offering, pretty much any Sniper Winger.

 

[Tkachukecheese]

Well, it’s a buyers market. Plenty of soon to be UFA scoring wingers on the market. The Islanders won’t give up their future for half a season of Panarin or Stone.

Are you really going to say that because Bobby Mac said that "it might be shaping up to be a buyers market" three weeks ago? The market changes... Teams go on terrible runs which is what's happening right now with all of the teams who were thought to be big game hunting... Injuries etc...

 

[Shootertooter]

Well, it’s a buyers market. Plenty of soon to be UFA scoring wingers on the market. The Islanders won’t give up their future for half a season of Panarin or Stone.

The Islanders won’t give up their future for half a season of Panarin or Stone..........or any of the UFA wingers.
I don't think Columbus is going to move Panarin because they are in the hunt too. I certainly don't think they will move him for futures. If they move him, they are looking to get a stud forward who replaces him. Who on the market is signed for term?

 

[Tkachukecheese]

Well, it’s a buyers market. Plenty of soon to be UFA scoring wingers on the market. The Islanders won’t give up their future for half a season of Panarin or Stone.

Also Columbus was almost out of a playoff spot when Bobby Mac said this... They are for sure going to make the playoffs I would think. The notion that he was alluding too was that if panarin stone and Duchene all became available that the price would be somewhat lower for each because of how skilled all three are. Buyers could say "well I can get panarin for this... So I want Stone for a little cheaper"

The narrative has changed drastically from when bobby Mac said this 3 weeks ago...