achdumeingute
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Which is actually probably better for Briere.Well, let's say you push Briere out with threatened amnesty.
Which is actually probably better for Briere.Well, let's say you push Briere out with threatened amnesty.
Timonen has gotta have some value.
Also, Shattenkirk is another RFA defenseman this summer.
According to Capgeek they have 7 RFA's. Thats a lot of players to resign for a team that only spends about 50 mil. The only good part for the Blues is that they are RFA's not UFA's
Briere and Coburn for Shattenkirk ? Give Blues a killer top pair and skilled Briere that is owed way less than his cap hit ?
Briere and Coburn for Shattenkirk ? Give Blues a killer top pair and skilled Briere that is owed way less than his cap hit ?
I'd probably do Briere and Grossmann/Meszaros for Shattenkirk.
Not Coburn. It's pointless to deal Coburn for pretty much anybody because as soon as we trade him we then have to use other assets to replace him.
Yeah, that's basically the whole season.
What annoys me is that if this team does get on a really hot run they certainly have the talent to make a good playoff push. The question is, will they dig themselves into too deep a hole first?
yup and with everyone having games in hand on us and many of those teams still playing each other it doesnt get any easier if they cant muster more then a 2 game winning streak.
What's the "full story"?
Well, let's say you push Briere out with threatened amnesty. You get a deadline first for him. Then you trade Timonen for a 1st.
Your team at the start of the offseason:
Hartnell - Giroux - Voracek
Simmonds - Schennn - Read
Laughton - Couturier - McGinn
Rinaldo - Talbot - xxxxxxxx
Coburn - Grossmann
Schenn - Gustafsson
xxxxxxx - xxxxxxxx
Bryzgalov
xxxxxxxx
You have three first rounders, one potentially fairly high. You could either use all three in this deep draft. Or you can package them for a top end defenseman.
Will three 1st rounders get us an RFA OEL, Pietrangelo, or Bogosian?
If the Flyers are shipping players out of town, Coburn has punched his ticket to be moved as well. This was to be the season that he was to ascend to being the number one guy here and he's failed. Add him to the pot and see who's willing to make a deal for him.
If the Flyers are shipping players out of town, Coburn has punched his ticket to be moved as well. This was to be the season that he was to ascend to being the number one guy here and he's failed. Add him to the pot and see who's willing to make a deal for him.
If you're shipping out Coburn, you might as well ship out Luke Schenn and Grossmann too. Let the rebuild start with Gustafsson....
I would do it just because Shattenkirk would bring better puck moving a speed better than any other d-man on the team. We had Gus out in the last minute of yesterday's game just because he is far and away our second best puck handling defenseman. Gus! Throw in the fact that Timonen is clearly a shell of his former self and ices the puck more than he starts effective breakouts and I think a Coburn-Shattenkirk swap would be a huge boon for the team.
I'd counter that their defensive situation is too fragile to singularly deal Coburn, despite his deficiencies. I like – and I'm pretty certain this is your point, too – the idea of Coburn + to land a true #1 defenseman. What that + represents is anyone's guess. I don't think Meszaros has too much trade value, given how fragile he has proven to be.
Also, I doubt Timonen would waive his NTC. The fact that he signed a 1-year deal here, IMHO, means he wanted to avoid being trade bait. Holmgren messed the bed big time by signing Timonen so early in the season for a cap-bruising amount.
Brière? I'm not sold on teams offering up a 1st for him. That's probably me being a pessimist. Assuming Holmgren could get Brière to agree to a trade, getting a 1st in the 20-25 range would still put them around where Ristolainen is presently expected to be taken by Craig Button, or Hagg (ISS).
You really think Snider is going to let the team get blown up ? ****ing doubt it. Odds are he has a gun to homers head to trade our first and our prospects for some project player or on the brink of retirement.
Grim future
If the Flyers are shipping players out of town, Coburn has punched his ticket to be moved as well. This was to be the season that he was to ascend to being the number one guy here and he's failed. Add him to the pot and see who's willing to make a deal for him.
i thought Testwuide was playing for McGinn. Knuble was already in the lineup with McGinn. They called up Testwuide and he played over McGinn.
Coburn is not a defenseman to build around. What part of that do you not understand Chris? You're pretty much the only guy on here who consistently defends perhaps the most inconsistent defender on this club. He does this year in and year out. He's terrible for a stretch, starts to turn it around, just when you think he's about to break through he reverts to being terrible and then plays well come playoff time. The Flyers need Coburn to bring it every game, not just games in April and May. I'm done with Coburn and his inconsistent play. It's like clockwork.
Coburn is not a defenseman to build around. What part of that do you not understand Chris? You're pretty much the only guy on here who consistently defends perhaps the most inconsistent defender on this club. He does this year in and year out. He's terrible for a stretch, starts to turn it around, just when you think he's about to break through he reverts to being terrible and then plays well come playoff time. The Flyers need Coburn to bring it every game, not just games in April and May. I'm done with Coburn and his inconsistent play. It's like clockwork.