News Article: Yes, It’s Time to Trade Jean-Gabriel Pageau (This time, it’s different.)

[Crosside]

What about signing Pager for 5x$5, sign CT for something like 3x$3.3 (what ever his qualify rate is) and trading White’s 5x$4.75+ for a RW with a skill set different than Pager, CT, Norris, White etx

We get a RW with a trigger or size and keep Brown, Pager, Norris, CT and Chaplik at C going forward.

We are overstocked at 2-4 line centers.

Trade Tierney and White cost just 1.5 m more

 

[Pavlikovsky]

Just from looking at the main board there have been like 6/7 fanbases interested in Pageau i've seen Buffalo, Colorado, Edmonton, Islanders, Boston, St Louis, and Pittsburgh(Don't think so but there was a thread) from what I can see unless Nashville blows it up Ottawa has the best center available this year.

 

[Sweatred]

Trade Tierney and White cost just 1.5 m more

That is true - but we may be able to flip White for a young controllable scoring winger where CT probably gets a late pick at best.

As dull as CT’s play has been he has been equaling and even outplaying White.

It would make Pager our 2C (which he is anyway) and let Names or CT play 3C and Chaplik 4C. In 2020 Norris could compete for 2C-4C along with any of the 1RD picks that may be coming.

Fill in C’s like Names will probably be available too.

 

[aragorn]

White has been signed long term so I doubt he will be moved anytime soon & L. Brown is looking like he is the future #1 centre this team has needed since Spezza left. Norris is off to a good yr in Belleville & could be in Ottawa as soon as next season plus they have Paul & Chlapik playing well that can also play centre. Pageau's value has probably never been higher, if the plan is to continue with the rebuild than I think they need to trade high on Pageau asap especially if they can get another 1st rd pick for him.

Three 1st rd picks & 3 2nd rd picks might help them to get exactly the player(s) they want in this 2020 draft, let's just hope they select the players we want too, which seems unlikely.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Agreed and we have to keep all player want to stay here.

 

[Sensinitis]

It's all hearsay at the end of the day, though I would tend to follow Wallace's opinion.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

A problem with signing him is that he’s probably going to want an NMC and that could be a problem for the expansion draft.

If he reverts back to being a 30 point player and he needs to be protected, we could lose a good player.

 

[JD1]

It's all hearsay at the end of the day, though I would tend to follow Wallace's opinion.

There is always a lot of hearsay with these things

To what extent is this a situation of

I want to stay AND i want the best possible contract

It is a soon to be 32 team league and getting the best possible contract from your current team is becoming harder and in many instances crippling to the team that signs the contract

I'd argue that there's a team down the road that signed a few guys to the best deals possible and it is crippling them

 

[HSF]

If the Sens keep pageau its just another disingenuous move by the franchise. Especially if they use it as an example of 'keeping and paying olayers'

It's like selling your BMW and then flexing your corolla

 

[Sensfan4life]

There is always a lot of hearsay with these things

To what extent is this a situation of

I want to stay AND i want the best possible contract

It is a soon to be 32 team league and getting the best possible contract from your current team is becoming harder and in many instances crippling to the team that signs the contract

I'd argue that there's a team down the road that signed a few guys to the best deals possible and it is crippling them

I think we are about to find out just how "crippled" the team down the road is and Leaf haters like myself are not going to be happy with the results.

 

[Cosmix]

If we can get a 1st+ for Pageau we deal him.
If he will only resign for 5+ years we deal him.
If he'll only sign or $5+ million/year we deal him.

If the answer to the 3 above questions is "no" then there's an argument for keeping him through the rebuild, imo.

Personally, I'd rather go $6 X 3 with him than commit to a 4th, 5th or (god forbid) 6th year.

No to $6M per year for any time period.

 

[Masked]

If the Sens keep pageau its just another disingenuous move by the franchise. Especially if they use it as an example of 'keeping and paying olayers'

It's like selling your BMW and then flexing your corolla

Corolla is not a bad option when the other option is taking OC Transpo while you're saving up for a new BMW.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

If the Sens keep pageau its just another disingenuous move by the franchise. Especially if they use it as an example of 'keeping and paying olayers'

It's like selling your BMW and then flexing your corolla

Pageau is good for the team. There is a lot more to him than his recent point streak. I say he stays with a hometown discount.

 

[HSF]

Corolla is not a bad option when the other option is taking OC Transpo while you're saving up for a new BMW.

It is when you can get a 1st round pick

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

It is when you can get a 1st round pick

Doubtful. Very doubtful.

 

[HSF]

Doubtful. Very doubtful.

I would take a 2nd for pageau

He is a 3rd liner who can move up the lineup here and there

He is going to get a decent contract which we have no reason to give him. Only reason being is to try and show the fans that they want to keep players but again we are past that point... I hope

 

[L'Aveuglette]

I would take a 2nd for pageau

He is a 3rd liner who can move up the lineup here and there

He is going to get a decent contract which we have no reason to give him. Only reason being is to try and show the fans that they want to keep players but again we are past that point... I hope

Incredible. We have a true leader who at best will get $4-5million and you'd trade him for a 2nd round pick?

He's probably the one vet we have left who can both lead on and off the ice while contributing offensively. On top of that he's just 27. Our 2nd round picks rarely return anything of value that can match that. And how can you say we have no reason to pay the guy? We've got cap space up the wazoo do we not? Not like a contract of that amount would hurt us over the next 4 years, especially once Ryan if off the books.

No, I'd only trade JG for a 1st round pick in the top 20, and I still wouldn't feel good about it.

 

[Micklebot]

Incredible. We have a true leader who at best will get $4-5million and you'd trade him for a 2nd round pick?

He's probably the one vet we have left who can both lead on and off the ice while contributing offensively. On top of that he's just 27. Our 2nd round picks rarely return anything of value that can match that. And how can you say we have no reason to pay the guy? We've got cap space up the wazoo do we not? Not like a contract of that amount would hurt us over the next 4 years, especially once Ryan if off the books.

No, I'd only trade JG for a 1st round pick in the top 20, and I still wouldn't feel good about it.

If we can sign him for 4-5 I am good with that, and I agree a 2nd is too little but this years draft is pretty deep, another 1st round pick would be awesome.

 

[HSF]

Incredible. We have a true leader who at best will get $4-5million and you'd trade him for a 2nd round pick?

He's probably the one vet we have left who can both lead on and off the ice while contributing offensively. On top of that he's just 27. Our 2nd round picks rarely return anything of value that can match that. And how can you say we have no reason to pay the guy? We've got cap space up the wazoo do we not? Not like a contract of that amount would hurt us over the next 4 years, especially once Ryan if off the books.

No, I'd only trade JG for a 1st round pick in the top 20, and I still wouldn't feel good about it.

how much term? I doubt Pageau is lining up here for a 3-4 year term

 

[Micklebot]

how much term? I doubt Pageau is lining up here for a 3-4 year term

Middle six forwards don't typically get more than 5 years, do they?

Pageau is a tough one to figure out what he'll get, most of his career he's been a defensive specialist on the 3rd line. This season has really made his contract a bit of a wildcard.

I hope we don't overpay for him, as much as I'd love to keep him around.

 

[Que]

Was anyone else watching the Guy Carboneau jersey retirement ceremony and thinking to themselves “Pageau! Pageau-Pageau-Pageau! Pageau! Pageauuu!”

 

[Sweatred]

The extreme ends of the Pager debate are easy, its the grey area in between clubs offering less than a 1RD pick and Pager wanting $25+ million. Something like TDL Day and Pager wanting 5 x$5.5 with a 2ND RD pick on the table from a playoff team.

 

[HSF]

5 year term would be too long. Not for pager he definitely deserves it but It doesn't make sense for the sens esp since we just signed White. We also have Norris, Brown coming through the ranks it makes sense to clear space for them

 

[JungleBeat]

I don’t like the idea of Pageau and White taking up a combined $10M. The time to trade Pageau is now while his value is high, and not get too much money tied up to non elite players.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills seeing 5x$5.5m range talked about. Please no.