Yannick Weber

[PM]

Will be interesting to see what Weber gets if he is (hopefully) re-signed given the crazy precedent set by the Sbisa contract. Anyone know who Weber's agent is? Hopefully he is a pushover.

 

[Rotting Corpse*]

Will be interesting to see what Weber gets if he is (hopefully) re-signed given the crazy precedent set by the Sbisa contract. Anyone know who Weber's agent is? Hopefully he is a pushover.

Hopefully the same guy who represents Tanev.

 

[Barney Gumble]

One can only hope now Benning can somehow get Weber re-up to a cheap contract to mitigate the Sbisa's contract.

 

[Pip]

Wouldn't be surprised to see Weber hire Sbisa's agent

The man does good work

 

[m9]

The funny thing is I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not with what's happened.

If Weber's agent is even remotely competent he will ask for close to 4 million. Will be interesting what the arbitrator thinks of this whole mess. A significantly worse player in an exact same situation just got extended to a massive 3 year 3.6 million/yr deal. How the hell does Weber sign for 1.5 million. No way, if Weber's camp make their case properly.

It's not sarcasm. He's not getting anywhere close to 4 million. He has only just established himself as an NHL regular in the 2nd half of the year and has no track record of being anything more than a fringe guy before then.

 

[thepuckmonster]

It's not sarcasm. He's not getting anywhere close to 4 million. He has only just established himself as an NHL regular in the 2nd half of the year and has no track record of being anything more than a fringe guy before then.

Agreed, Weber doesn't have the career history to demand anywhere near 4M despite his 10 goals.

 

[pahlsson]

i guess the moral of the story is that "establishing" is the most important part in contracts

you can establish yourself as a **** defenseman for 5 years but as long as you've done that establishing you'll get paid

 

[Pip]

Agreed, Weber doesn't have the career history to demand anywhere near 4M despite his 10 goals.

You don't need a history of playing well to get a big contract with this management.

 

[The Stig]

You don't need a history of playing well to get a big contract with this management.

Can we not turn this into another thread complaining about Sbisa?

 

[Barney Gumble]

Can we not turn this into another thread complaining about Sbisa?

One would hope that individual is just an "outlier" in that Benning gave Tanev a "show me first deal" & wasn't willing to give Santo more than a one year deal.

 

[PM]

I don't see how you can discuss Webers next contract without bringing up Sbisa's as a precedent. It's going to be the first thing his agent points to if he has half a brain. I guess you could point to Tanevs as well but that is no longer the most recent precedent to work with.

 

[Rotting Corpse*]

i guess the moral of the story is that "establishing" is the most important part in contracts

you can establish yourself as a **** defenseman for 5 years but as long as you've done that establishing you'll get paid

If it goes to arbitration this will almost certainly be the case, as service-time and games played are going to be the first points to look at in terms of valid comparables for Weber. On the one hand, the 100 more games played that Sbisa has is not a gaping chasm, but it is a fairly large gap and one can also say that he has at least two seasons of playing pretty much every day while Weber has none. I would imagine that this would nix any chance of Sbisa being used as a valid comparable in arbitration. At least the Canucks would hope so.

 

[Get North]

I'd give Weber 1.5 million for 1 year but there is no room for him unless we move Stanton. Edit: I think Corrado can be sent to the AHL next season so a D-core of Edler, Tanev, Hamhuis, Weber, Sbisa, Bieksa, Clendening, and Stanton. Not sure how much space we'll have but we should have enough cap to re-sign someone like Richardson along with Weber.

 

[tc 23]

I'd give Weber 1.5 million for 1 year but there is no room for him unless we move Stanton. Edit: I think Corrado can be sent to the AHL next season so a D-core of Edler, Tanev, Hamhuis, Weber, Sbisa, Bieksa, Clendening, and Stanton. Not sure how much space we'll have but we should have enough cap to re-sign someone like Richardson along with Weber.

We actually probably don't have enough cap space for both of them (maybe not even one of them). We are sitting at $66.64m tied up in 17 players, meaning they have an estimated $1.56-$4.36 cap space (depending on if the NHLPA opts to inflate cap or not; speculation is they won't so it's probably $1.56m) to sign 6 players. They probably have to look to clear salary just to fill the roster with league min guys or cheap ELCs.

 

[Barney Gumble]

We actually probably don't have enough cap space for both of them (maybe not even one of them). We are sitting at $66.64m tied up in 17 players, meaning they have an estimated $1.56-$4.36 cap space (depending on if the NHLPA opts to inflate cap or not; speculation is they won't so it's probably $1.56m) to sign 6 players. They probably have to look to clear salary just to fill the roster with league min guys or cheap ELCs.

You also need to leave at least some cap space to handle injuries (which you know we will have during a regular season). Course, Benning could always unload one vet and replace his spot with a minimum wage player (a downgrade probably but likely can't be helped).

 

[StIllmatic]

We actually probably don't have enough cap space for both of them (maybe not even one of them). We are sitting at $66.64m tied up in 17 players, meaning they have an estimated $1.56-$4.36 cap space (depending on if the NHLPA opts to inflate cap or not; speculation is they won't so it's probably $1.56m) to sign 6 players. They probably have to look to clear salary just to fill the roster with league min guys or cheap ELCs.

Great going Benning. Great.

 

[vanuck]

i guess the moral of the story is that "establishing" is the most important part in contracts

you can establish yourself as a **** defenseman for 5 years but as long as you've done that establishing you'll get paid

Yeah, it's puzzling.

 

[me2]

I'd give Weber 1.5 million for 1 year but there is no room for him unless we move Stanton. Edit: I think Corrado can be sent to the AHL next season so a D-core of Edler, Tanev, Hamhuis, Weber, Sbisa, Bieksa, Clendening, and Stanton. Not sure how much space we'll have but we should have enough cap to re-sign someone like Richardson along with Weber.

If that is the offer best route for Weber is probably arbitration, I don't see him getting less tha 1.5m in arbitration and he might get lucky and get 2+m. The good thibg for him is the Canucks can't walk away unless the arbitration judgement is over 3.5m (or higher based on cap inflation).

 

[Jyrki21]

Easily should have won the Unsung Hero award for the Canucks this year. Had a good season and did it quietly.

(Dorsett is, like, the precise opposite of what an unsung hero is -- given far more prominence and attention than his play deserves).

 

[tantalum]

Easily should have won the Unsung Hero award for the Canucks this year. Had a good season and did it quietly.

(Dorsett is, like, the precise opposite of what an unsung hero is -- given far more prominence and attention than his play deserves).

It's voted on by the players themselves. There is no such thing as quietly having a good season when you are in the locker room. They all know what everyone does day in and day out. And the players in that room gave it to Dorsett. Yes Weber has had a good back half where he may have finally established himself as a NHL regular but I'm not going to second guess the award voted on by the players.

 

[Verviticus]

It's voted on by the players themselves. There is no such thing as quietly having a good season when you are in the locker room. They all know what everyone does day in and day out. And the players in that room gave it to Dorsett. Yes Weber has had a good back half where he may have finally established himself as a NHL regular but I'm not going to second guess the award voted on by the players.

thats cool. im gonna second guess it though, and i think weber probably should have gotten the award

him or higgins, for the amount of **** he gets

 

[y2kcanucks]

I'm OK with letting Weber go. Time for one of the young kids to step up (Clendening/Corrado).

 

[vanuck]

Easily should have won the Unsung Hero award for the Canucks this year. Had a good season and did it quietly.

(Dorsett is, like, the precise opposite of what an unsung hero is -- given far more prominence and attention than his play deserves).

Yeah, agreed. Weber has actually stepped up in the absence of a viable right side partner next to Hamhuis and filled that role reasonably well.

Dorsett has actually made others around him worse whenever he got bumped up alongside Bonino and Higgins.

 

[IntangiBo]

Maybe Weber can continue to follow in the steps of that other great Yannick we had.

 

[me2]

I'm OK with letting Weber go. Time for one of the young kids to step up (Clendening/Corrado).

Times are tough when 26yos are deemed past it.