News Article: Yahoo news article... still no respect from some
- Thread starter batting1k
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Just read that. I find all of Yahoo articles (no matter what sport) to be atrocious.
-ghoste
Wow. This is just an awful read. I guess that's what happens when you only check box scores and stat watch. Was I watching a different Panthers v Rangers game?
EnforceTheLaus
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Statistics show is bad because of the early season and loss streak when it was truly bad. Since the 1st 5 win and current, the team is playing extremely well statistically. Thing to remember though is that statistics show trends and are not predictions. As long as this team continues to play like have in the winning streaks we are fine.
Gentle Man
09/12
RainingRats
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I don't know how you guys can argue with data like that? It's pretty objective. If you don't think corsi matters much then that's fine. Perhaps he's giving too much weight to advanced stats, that's always up for debate.
The main reason we're behind in shots for and scoring opportunities for is simple. Gallant gives most of the offensive zone starts to non-offensive zone players. That's his strategy.
Our goaltending has been great but so has our defense, especially around the net, clearing the puck and limiting second chances. That doesn't get picked up by advanced stats.
The main reason we're behind in shots for and scoring opportunities for is simple. Gallant gives most of the offensive zone starts to non-offensive zone players. That's his strategy.
Our goaltending has been great but so has our defense, especially around the net, clearing the puck and limiting second chances. That doesn't get picked up by advanced stats.
Gentle Man
09/12
Above all else, our PP needs to improve.
Special teams index needs to get at or over 100.
PK has improved but PP has stunk
RainingRats
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Yes, our PP has weighed our stats down too. Getting dominated in the face-off circle as well.
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Points to Rangers game and how lopsided the shot total was, and goes on to say we were "utterly dominated in every facet of the game".... did this ****er even watch the game?
RainingRats
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We're discussing it in the news around the NHL thread.
I think for the most part, we've received an overwhelming amount of positive press.
I think for the most part, we've received an overwhelming amount of positive press.
This is my point. It's not like they're lucking their way into wins. They're playing excellent team defense and getting great goaltending. They've dominated a lot of these games on the win streak and look like a good team, not a team that somehow stumbled their way into first place.
RainingRats
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agree with you. our 5 on 5 team defense has been phenomenal. I watch a lot of out of town broadcasts and they praise us for it.
The goals against is a stat that over 9 games can't be argued is luck. I also don't think our goalies are playing out of their minds or carrying this team. They have elite save percentages because they can see the shots and they're from low scoring chance areas, something stats fail to pick up. D has done a great job since the new pairings were put together.
MintyFresh88
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I guess this doesn't include putting the puck into the opponent's net. This facet of the game was performed 3 times more than the opponent.
Nothing to see here, moving on.
Beezeral
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Its a tough article to read as a Panthers fan. While he does make some solid points, its clear he hasn't watched the Panthers at all. He pointed to how bad the team was in early november without mentioning it was also the time Barkov was injured. He implied Bjugstad was a bad player, and his comments on the ranger game are absurd.
Little Bobby Boo
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I don't think this article is really that far off. We're going to come back down to earth - it just depends off far of a fall that is. I still think 2/3 in the division would be a fitting end for this roster. He just comes off as a know it all to me.
I'm enjoying it nonetheless - it's fun to watch fun hockey
I'm enjoying it nonetheless - it's fun to watch fun hockey
Beezeral
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Obviously the Panthers will come back to earth. No team will win every game for the rest of the season. The reality is that the Panthers will likely go back to playing at a 96 point pace. That is still an improvement on last season, and should be enough to make the playoffs in 3rd or the 1st WC spot barring a bunch of teams going on a Ottawa Senators type run to finish the season
CatscratchFever
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All solid points. The question remains...will they get better( FOs, possession, limiting chances, shots against) or stumble from here on out. Is it Gallants coaching, or is the talent drop too deep after the first line? They say there's always something to improve on. Are they working on these things, or just "keeping it going"? The Minny game was bad. Will they rest up and put in a good performance in Buffalo? So many questions...
Beezeral
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The depth should improve with the return of bjugstad. The Panthers have played almost this entire season without 1 of its top 2 centers. That really hurts the depth of the lineup
FlaPanthers11
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Without reading the article, I agree with the premise.
We have been lucky and are playing at a very unsustainable rate. We're a 7-10 team in the conference and we're due to crash any time now. We're the team riding PDO hard right now and over achieving. As of now we are the Leafs of the lockout season, the Avs of the following season, and the Flames of last season. We need to be cautiously optimistic because we have been lucky.
We have been lucky and are playing at a very unsustainable rate. We're a 7-10 team in the conference and we're due to crash any time now. We're the team riding PDO hard right now and over achieving. As of now we are the Leafs of the lockout season, the Avs of the following season, and the Flames of last season. We need to be cautiously optimistic because we have been lucky.
Gentle Man
09/12
They dont have to thats the thing. The team is solid defensively. One and dones are key. Hard to lose when you only allow 1 goal a game.
Now, that will probably be 2 more than likely, but its easier to sustain a sound defensive game vs relying on offense every game, which we dont.
Again, the key to maintaining our current pace is special teams. You put yourself in a position every night when you finish a game at an index of 100.
our PK is solid, our PP is awful. If that improves, there is no reason for us to be a 100 plus point team. Zero reason. None.
Going 0 for 5 in the pp is fine as lobg as you go 4 for 4 on the PK. Thats a wash.
The team is strong 5 on 5. Our PK will not sustain simply because we stink at faceoffs. Absolutely stink. So the other team, mainly teams with top tier PPs have tremendous faceoff men, thus the PK starts with us chasing. Incidentally, we start our PP the same way.
I believe we simply need a PP specialist and we become legitimate. Thats it. We dont necessarily need a 40 goal scorer, just a pp specialist. A Garrison, a Samuelsson, someone, and we become a dangerous team
angry_treefrog
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Without reading the article I can honestly say that I am glad that someone out there still hates us.
All this love Panthers are getting lately is making me really uncomfortable.
All this love Panthers are getting lately is making me really uncomfortable.
batting1k
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PDO is a very dumb stat in my opinion. Either the puck goes in or it doesn't...trying to measure luck is stupid. You're either winning or you're not. Of course winning game after game like we are is unsustainable over the whole season, but it's not like we've been playing terrible during this 9 game winning streak. 7 or 8 of the 9 games were solid wins.
Gentle Man
09/12
Agreed. How is luck measurable? "Puck luck?"
is there a science or stat in which how the puck bounces is calculated? Is it gravity?
(Puck temperature/ice denisty)x (corsi x shots on goal)?
