Player Discussion Xavier Ouellet: The X-Man
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you think he's a fine #6 but Mete isn't an NHLer. Ouellet is ok defensively in the AHL, he has no business being in the NHL.
viceroy
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If you can be a mostly gaffe-less D-man while playing in the NHL than yeah you do belong. No argument they're both bottom pairing guys but let's put away the hyperbole. Sure I'd like to see Juulsen and Fleury but Julien feels more confident with the Mete-Ouellet pairing.
Redux91
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Its nothing personal X-man ...But i just honestly think we have FOUR better options than this guy for bottom pair, its almost kind of mind blowing they selected him for the on ice playoff roster...and his play isnt showing much either
If Julien honest to god continues with a bottom pairing of Mete - Ouellet they will get eaten ALIVE, how can this coach not see this...
If Julien honest to god continues with a bottom pairing of Mete - Ouellet they will get eaten ALIVE, how can this coach not see this...
montreal
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he makes lots of mistakes in the AHL so I don't think he belongs in the NHL, but do like him as a decent AHLer to have around for depth in a pinch.
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What other options does he have in hands ? Folin ? ouch !; Juulsen ? not ready enough; Fleury ? mistakes prone still. Olofsson ? See Folin.
I would take Mete out of the line up before Ouellet right now. Hopefully, neither of them will be in the line up at the beginning of next regular season.
Alzner would make a better left d in the playoffs vs Philly. Loads of experience against them. To think he's only 31 and Montreal can't find a spot for his experience.
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Alzner opted out so it wasn't an option to find a spot for him
montreal
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lol Ouellet, this guy sucks. If you really think he's better then Mete who's playing on his off side with a terrible D partner, give you f***ing head a shake.
though I did have to laugh at Ouellet on the PK, how the f*** did anyone in charge think that's a good idea?
though I did have to laugh at Ouellet on the PK, how the f*** did anyone in charge think that's a good idea?
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Ouellet is without a doubt a better option for the third pairing than Fleury or Juulsen, even though he's left handed. Ouellet is a neutral impact player who's a slight positive impact defensively. Fleury is just all around awful and Juulsen hasn't played in 2 years, but when he did play he was also terrible. Claude's making the right decision because the alternatives are all awful. The only player who should be in the running for the spot is Folin, and he's the same type of player as Ouellet, only right handed (which to be fair probably makes him a better option for the third pair, since Mete would then be able to play on his strong side).
Also the people calling Mete a #6/7/AHL D are totally out to lunch. He's a great defenseman who's elite at driving play. Our lineup is way better with him in it.
Over the past 3 seasons he's 15th among defensemen in RAPM xGPM. That's a caliber of player you want in your lineup each and every night. He should be on the top pairing with Weber as they've had so much success together over the years I don't get why Claude refuses to play them together, and especially because the Chiarot/Weber pairing is a total dumpster fire.
TL;DR: Ouellet isn't great but he's way better than Fleury and Juulsen, and the only person who should be in contention for that spot is Folin. Also Mete is great.
Also the people calling Mete a #6/7/AHL D are totally out to lunch. He's a great defenseman who's elite at driving play. Our lineup is way better with him in it.
Over the past 3 seasons he's 15th among defensemen in RAPM xGPM. That's a caliber of player you want in your lineup each and every night. He should be on the top pairing with Weber as they've had so much success together over the years I don't get why Claude refuses to play them together, and especially because the Chiarot/Weber pairing is a total dumpster fire.
TL;DR: Ouellet isn't great but he's way better than Fleury and Juulsen, and the only person who should be in contention for that spot is Folin. Also Mete is great.
That Habs Fan
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I reeeeeeeally don't understand why this guy is getting minutes while we have guys like Fleury, Juulsen and Romanov in the wings...
26Mats
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Romanov is ineligible to play.
Fleury and Juulsen could definitely be worse.
My main criticism of his usage yesterday is he shouldn't be on the pk. He's not strong enough to move guys screening Price out of the way.
Scintillating10
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Same here. Put Mete back on natural side. Both Fleury or Jullssen better. If they are available?
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Ouellet is not my favorite. Far of it, at least hes working on each shift and try to be responsible... He is not like Dale weise who was litteraly doing nothing right
WatchfulElm
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Strong game by Ouellet. Excellent play to set up the first goal. These are his true first NHL playoffs and I'm happy to see he's elevating his play for the occasion.
I was also skeptical at first because I wanted Fleury or Juulsen. But as of now, he's the right guy in the right chair.
I was also skeptical at first because I wanted Fleury or Juulsen. But as of now, he's the right guy in the right chair.
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If these stats are so important why are you unwilling to explain them?
You're going technical and using abbreviations, it's standard to introduce every abbreviate unless it's universally known like PK or PP.
Archijerej
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The guy was signed to be a #9-10 defenceman and a leader in Laval and found himself in the lineup due to circumstances (Scandella and Reilly traded, Fleury and Folin suck and Juulsen not healthy). The amount of crap he's getting for an honest effort from a large part of this fanbase is mind-boggling.
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JianYang
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Alzner is kind of like the Weise of habs dmen.
There is literally nothing I can say that he does which would bring value to this lineup. If the only thing you can say is experience, thats just because there is no other redeeming on ice quality.
It's not that oulette brings alot to the table either, but he does bring some speed, and mobility, I guess. Alzner is "okay" in certain aspects, and poor in others, and he doesn't excel at anything in particular at the nhl level.
Since when has Ouellet been atrocious.? The guy played 1 game and they won it. You guys really need to stop expecting a rookie 3rd rounder to step in and displace a vet. Believe me, I wish he could, but its very unrealistic.
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You know that Ouellet cannot win on this board. I think he is a fair d-man for a bottom spot or as a #7. Way safer and better than Mete defensively.
Absolutely. He wouldn't be the captain in Laval if they didn't have some confidence in him. I think he's just fine as a replacement 3rd pair guy. He's not going to make any more mistakes than anyone else.
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