Confirmed Signing with Link: [WPG] Neal Pionk signed (4 years, $5.875M AAV)

[Henkka]

Pretty much right price and good term.

 

[MrBoJangelz71]

I think you are mixing up a good deal with Market value. Pions is a good deal based on limited amounts of games at this level. He is solid and deserves that money and more, but if I am in a 7 games series against a team with some size then I want Nurse or Jones in that spot and I am willing to pay extra for the size and grit.

We just saw a head to head match up with Pionk and Nurse in the playoffs.

Pionk had more hits, more blocked shots, shots on net and points than Nurse despite playing considerably less minutes. And most importantly Pionk’s team won.

Add their price tags into the equation and best bang for your buck easily goes to Pionk

 

[Aggie204]

We just saw a head to head match up with Pionk and Nurse in the playoffs.

Pionk had more hits, more blocked shots, shots on net and points than Nurse despite playing considerably less minutes. And most importantly Pionk’s team won.

Add their price tags into the equation and best bang for your buck easily goes to Pionk

Poster lost me at grit.

 

[libertarian]

I think you are mixing up a good deal with Market value. Pions is a good deal based on limited amounts of games at this level. He is solid and deserves that money and more, but if I am in a 7 games series against a team with some size then I want Nurse or Jones in that spot and I am willing to pay extra for the size and grit.

You were in a 7 game series against a rather small team a couple of months ago and Nurse didn't help the Oilers win one game.

That said, I really like Nurse. He is the type of D that I've always respected for decades and wish he was on my team. Just not at 9.25M in a flat cap world.

 

[dennispol]

deserves more than that IMO

 

[Dache]

Honestly, his first year wasn’t that bad. He had lousy partners. I think it was more a case of Ranger fans seeing the name and the contract so they were expecting a little more of a franchise defenseman while Trouba is really just a solid all around #2 or terrific #3. Id still rather pay Trouba 8 million than Pionk 6 million. I think this is a trade that worked for both clubs.

Even as a jets fan I still do prefer Trouba, especially the Trouba that played here. However if you’re happy paying Trouba 8 mil to be a terrific #3 that’s an issue.

 

[Legend123]

6M for Pionk? WTH? He was trash vs the Habs

 

[Romang67]

6M for Pionk? WTH? He was trash vs the Habs

Luckily the vast majority of Jets games are not against the Habs, so I guess we'll be fine.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Very underrated player for the Jets. Great contract for them.

 

[PizzaAndPucks]

Yeah I knew Pionk was going to wind up being just as good as Trouba. Alot of the tweets about the Jets getting fleeced in the trade did NOT age well. I'm taking Pionk + Heinola over Trouba and that contract of his. Good move for the Jets. Pionk and Heinola should be good top 4 D for a long time. Trouba is still a great player but him at 8 million for like 5 more years is not good.

 

[kylbaz]

Pionk + Dillon or Nurse for almost same money.

 

[MrBoJangelz71]

6M for Pionk? WTH? He was trash vs the Habs

Yes because a smart GM will ignore 140 plus games and focus only on 4, when handing out multi year contracts

 

[Whileee]

Jets had Pionk for an AAV of 3M for the last two years. Combining his bridge deal and his new 4-year deal, it averages out to about 4.2M over 7 years. Trouba was almost double that at 8M over 8 years.

 

[Whileee]

6M for Pionk? WTH? He was trash vs the Habs

He was anchored to Forbort, who was absolutely done half-way through the season. How Forbort got 3M from the Bruins is a deep mystery.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Yeah I knew Pionk was going to wind up being just as good as Trouba. Alot of the tweets about the Jets getting fleeced in the trade did NOT age well. I'm taking Pionk + Heinola over Trouba and that contract of his. Good move for the Jets. Pionk and Heinola should be good top 4 D for a long time. Trouba is still a great player but him at 8 million for like 5 more years is not good.

Probably just semantics, but Trouba is definitley not 'great', neither is Pionk though. If contracts werent' a factor, id prob take Troobs. With contracts I'd probably rather have Neal back as a Ranger fan.

 

[Legend123]

Yes because a smart GM will ignore 100 plus games and focus only on 4, when handing out multi year contracts

those 100 games don't merit 6M

 

[ffh]

those 100 games don't merit 6M

Good thing he's not making 6 then.

 

[Romang67]

those 100 games don't merit 6M

And if you don't like those stats:

NHL Stats
That's Pionk at 13th in D-man scoring over the past two seasons.

He did this playing the vast majority of his minutes with Luca Sbisa and Derek Forbort.

What about his play these past two seasons don't merit $5.875M over 4 years?

 

[Ginger Papa]

Agreed. I was one of the idiots calling for Chevy's head ... how wrong I was!

Guilty.

I honestly thought he was a 6/7 at best. He always seemed like a liability. In his defense he was playing on a top pair with Marc Staal...

I saw him as a defensive liability and offensive defenseman whose offense wasn’t great enough to justify that. I’ll gladly admit I was wrong - good for him.

As my Dad used to say, “A person who can admit they’re all wrong when they’re all wrong, is alright.”

Hat tip to all the Rangers fans wishing Neal & the Jets well.

Like many others have mentioned, with the market for Defencemen this off-season, I was worried this would be another Million. Really happy to see it where it landed & hopefully Copp gets signed soon.

 

[MrBoJangelz71]

those 100 games don't merit 6M

Yes they did, which is why he received said contract.
You do understand 100 is greater than 4?

 

[Not Canada Drai]

We just saw a head to head match up with Pionk and Nurse in the playoffs.

Pionk had more hits, more blocked shots, shots on net and points than Nurse despite playing considerably less minutes. And most importantly Pionk’s team won.

Add their price tags into the equation and best bang for your buck easily goes to Pionk

Yes because a smart GM will ignore 100 plus games and focus only on 4, when handing out multi year contracts

 

[wabagee]

Are you half asleep?

 

[ponder]

I dislike Pionk, plays like a rat. However, he’s a good player, this is a solid contract for the Jets.

 

[brock0791]

Happy for Neal. He really turned it around in peg. As a limited viewer, I don’t see first line anything with him. Feels like he checked Mcdavid one game and got paid.

Was top 3 in 5v5 points by D men most of the season. Counting stats aren't and good as other D because for whatever reason Maurice would rather have Morrissey on PP1

 

[Legend123]

Yes they did, which is why he received said contract.
You do understand 100 is greater than 4?

u don't understand. Even based on those 100 games, he doesn't deserve 6m